Evolution: Fossils, Genes, and Mousetraps (1-9)

September 27, 2006 lecture by Kenneth R. Miller, Ph.D. at HHMI headquarters for an audience of high school students from Loudon County, VA

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[ABriefHistoryOfTime]

@LoricaLady Now, are you ever going to stop dodging?

How was calling creationism invisible magic a strawman?

How many terrestrial organisms were present in the Cambrian?

[ABriefHistoryOfTime]

@LoricaLady 'the contents of the chromosomes of the two animals is not the same'

Outright fabrication. Our chromosome 2 is highly homologous to chimp chromosomes 12 and 13. In historical science, such as this, its a prediction-confirmation format with experimentation being indirect but applicable, for instance the fusions which you keep mentioning.

[ABriefHistoryOfTime]

@LoricaLady No it's not about the count, to further insist it is simply showcases your ignorance of homology. It's the fact that our chromosome 2 is highly homologous to two chimp chromosomes, that means very similar by the way. You have a horrific understanding of the fallacy of the single cause as well. Science is an empirical and inductive process, this means the causes with evidential support get attention over the ones without, IE telomeric fusion.

[LoricaLady]

@ABriefHistoryOfTime Cont. Why isn't it the Fallacy of Incomplete Comparison to say that the count is everything when the contents of the chromosomes of the two animals is not the same? The previous poster also said this vid uses the scientific method. As I asked him, doesn't the scientific method require an experiment? What experiment was done here? Instead you have is the usual evo logical fallacy of Correlation Does Not Imply Causation. Speculation presented as evidence is pseudo science.

[LoricaLady]

@ABriefHistoryOfTime It is about count. The fusion of the chromosomes makes a superficial numbermatch with chimps. We aren't even said by evolutionists to be related to chimps so that is another thing that doesn't really make sense. However, I will ask you the same Qs I asked the previous poster. Since about 1 in 1000 people have an additional fused chromosome, then why isn't it the Fallacy of the Single Cause to say that the 1 Miller focuses on comes from apes. If not 1, whynot both? Cont

[ABriefHistoryOfTime]

@LoricaLady From the looks of it all they did was point out that you weren't aware that it wasn't chromosome count that's used as evidence in regards to chromosome 2.

You seem to think anyone who refutes you is being unwilling to have a civil debate.

[LoricaLady]

ANYONE; If you see no reply to some posters below they know they are on ignore for things like personal insults, name calling and refusal to debate by evading Qs asked. If anyone wishes to make the same points in his or her own way I will be happy to respond with what I feel is "the rest of the story." However, I debate only with those who are civil & objective and actually debate.

[TheJaredJommer]

@LoricaLady Also, you've posted mountains of fallacy so don't get all worked up if I don't get around to correcting it all at once.

[TheJaredJommer]

@LoricaLady Given that you didn't even understand that it was homology, not chromosome count, that is used as evidence regarding chromosome 2, you don't appear to be in a position to claim you ever actually understood evolution.

'Mendell gave us the laws of genetics with evolution totally excluded.'

Mendell was actually describing evolution, whether he used the specific word or not. He detailed the process of heredity and changes in heritable traits, AKA evolution.

[TheJaredJommer]

@LoricaLady jebus raised a pretty valid point there, you seemed unwilling (unable) to even attempt to define the concept you're arguing against.