8/72, KJVOB : God's Words?

Proof why KJV-only is anti-Bible? ENGLISH was not a language when the Bible writers lived; inspiration goes by WRITER, not the language. See, the point God makes is that HE WRITES HIS WORD IN YOU, Jeremiah 31:31-34. So He wrote in the writers, to show what happens when He writes what He gave THEM, into YOU. Ultimate perfection is demonstrated, when the Perfect can RESIDE INSIDE, the imperfect! So even our original-language texts are imperfect in form (depicting the human and hence human errors), yet Complete Perfect Word exists AMIDST (Hebrew prep: qerev) copying mistakes, etc. So you just read dfefeij avoeijo avjdiojid PAST the errors, STILL SEE the faeifeoi aveijro oidfjaoi Full Real Word, anyway!

Next big point: Christ Himself did not learn Bible in English, so the English you read, is NOT God's Word. Period. But any translated Bible CONTAINS the Real Word. It's like juice at the supermarket: some juices are 100%; that's like the Original texts (in sum, not just any one manuscript); other juices are 60%, 30% real juices, plus water. Those, are the translations. But ALL are good for you!

This video also responds to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3VTGwoIus0

View whole playlist here: http://www.brainout.net/SatStrat2.htm#KJVO

Or in Youtube, here: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9637CFFCF9F62107

Links:

Forum where both sides are free to participate: http://www.freewebs.com/kjvonlyresearch/forums.htm .

Origin of the KJV-only claim: http://www.bible.ca/b-kjv-only.htm#bloodline . You can verify the authors' claims by means of the people cited in that link as KJV-only proponents, on the internet.

A kinder, gentler rebuttal to the KJV-only people: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5951/KJVOnly.html

This video tries to be kind, by asking a simple question: WHOSE WORDS are in English, if the original Words God gave, were not in English? If God promises to preserve HIS OWN WORD, then that promise MUST BE the words He originally gave. Else you're not learning GOD's Words, but someone else's.

When God gives HIS Word, HE preserves it. Hence translations can't ever be as good. It's not a question of one human language being better than another, it's a question of what language GOD CHOSE to express. And you get the free right UNDER THE SPIRIT to learn those very same words. Same ones Jesus learned, God can empower you to learn. It's not elitist, and frankly it's EASIER than learning a translation. Because, God enables it. So to refuse that, is to refuse God's Power.

Granted, oftentimes the KJV is the best among the translations, but it cannot capture all the meaning of GOD's Words.

For example, much in the original Bible is communicated by wordplay, soundplay, even play on poetic meter -- all those are native to the original language, and cannot be replicated in translation. So God preserved HIS ORIGINAL WORDS instead. It's called "Verbal Plenary Inspiration" in theology.

Tribulation, Trinity, the Cross as a kind of rape -- all these are stridently communicated in the original Hebrew by using soundplay and meter, as you'll see in my Psalm 90 and Isaiah 53 Hebrew videos. The "Son of Man" title in the NT is solely a God-man title, is solely taken from Daniel 7:13, but you can't know that from the translations. (See my "Son of Man" videos in my "brainout-made Exegesis" playlist.) So you can't know how stridently Christ claims He's GOD, in the NT. In translation, the verses are ambiguous. In short, much is lost in translation.

But God preserved the original words given, not translations. Granted, over the years of copying, among the 25,000 or so "witnesses" (copies) of these original words some copies have mistakes -- but other copies of the same verse, do not. Moreover, even the mistaken copies read like this: "t is s ntence h s m sing w rds". So you can tell what it means.

Hence the words are still preserved. God's Words. As He originally gave them through inspiring the Bible writers. So it's a trip back in time, and you are just as much in 712BC as Isaiah was, when he wrote Isaiah 53.

Since the Holy Spirit was THERE, He knows what of the words we have, are His. So you can learn those words by HIS Power, too. Science of textual criticism is about this, but the Holy Spirit's testimony will make that textual job competent. So just use 1John1:9 and ask.

God's Words. Testified to BY God, as you read them. Same Words As Jesus Learned. Same Words as the writers themselves wrote. Available to you. NO go-betweens. No 'spin'. Just God and you.

Now, if you refuse the Holy Spirit's Power to give you the ORIGINAL words since those words are AVAILABLE, what do you think will happen to you? Divine Discipline! For the one claiming a translation is as good as the original, is claiming the Holy Spirit a liar. For the original words are preserved, and you can prove that, as you learn them. His Power to your brain...

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[gmcjetpilot]

Ha ha. I get annoyed with extreme fanatical people, who blow up minutia to make up grand conspiracies in their head. These people aren't dumb, not crazy? What makes them do this? I think ego. They like the idea they, only they know something no one else does. Of course what they know is ridiculous, silly and ultimately an epic logical failure and failure to understand God and his Holy Word. God is not weak. We're assured we have his message. To confront these people is an affront to their ego.

[brainouty]

@gmcjetpilot Oh, agreed! I was just now viewing HIGH SCHOOL Latin and Greek texts which were routinely used in America last century. New York, imposed a 4-year Latin program: I have its dictionary, dated 1919! Many other books like that, for other states.

Hamilton's interlinear on Cicero (dated 1885) has a preface explaining that if you spoke the language to the CHILD, he'd learn it as easily as English.

So what did we stop doing? Yeah, baby, not merely ego, but LAZINESS!

[Amarx00]

And I could go on,but I'll keep watching you're videos but I feel you're, what I can only call basesless charracter attacks on Christians and Riplinger does you a disservice.

[brainouty]

I'd really prefer you didn't watch my videos, Amarx00. But it's a free Youtube. I just won't answer you anymore.

I can spend five minutes typing a comment to an apostate believer, or five minutes studying God's Word better. I opt for the latter. Good bye.

[Amarx00]

And I have to say an overwhelming feeling of hate from you towards... Christians?!?

I'snt that strange?

But I think you saying people are not Christians till they learn the original hebrew is known as Fundimientalist or even extreme fundimentalist christianity.

Which is what I know to be the literal interpritation of the bible....

Are you really saying to people that the path is that narrow?

[brainouty]

'But I think you saying people are not Christians till the learn the original Hebrew' -- I never said that, Amarx00. So now you are lying.

I said people who are Christians SHOULD LEARN the words GOD wrote, not a translation. But you reverse what was said, because you wanted to do that. Thus you prove no Spirit in you, because the Spirit knows what was said, versus your claim here.

[Amarx00]

I.m sorry I wrote you're videos' are full of it.

I'm sure they are not, which is why I was watching.

But I am sad at you're attitude, as I beleive you would want to call youreself a christian.

Do you recodnise any of these values in you're actions to me?

I who have merely been introduced to this subject through Lipringers work and am just looking for a broader perspective.

To be met by anger, hate and predudice?

Can you really call that Christian?

[Amarx00]

And I guess evidentaly why you wouldnt want me to go through you're videos' for evidence against Riplinger, is just because their full of it!

[Amarx00]

Lady, I've even seen you in a video pushing the old Blavastky Satan, Advasary Lightbringer line!!!

So I suppose you're gonna next tell me you beleive in the Maitreya!

[Amarx00]

@brainouty

You're anger and hate towards Christians is palpable!

I pray it does not consume you.

You must not argue with people a lot, or must be afraid to tackle my points, but here they are again...

Riplinger points to very specific and deliberate changes in scripture... are these all false? What say you of the context?

And did you not say that because of the complexity of the word is why we need pastors?

Which of course is the opposite to what jesus said...

[brainouty]

Yeah, Amarx00, you really should say nothing, as the robot videos rebut and prove Riplinger a liar, point by point.

Do your homework before you make claims. Riplinger doesn't, you don't, you are just as much a jackass as she is, so long as you don't.

Use 1John1:9 or else you will be very embarrassed at the BEMA (a GREEK word which KJVO use, lol).

[brainouty]

Here's the link, Amarx00, to the aforesaid video. watch?v=WNyH5A_OZs8

You'll think it wise, of course, since you have no Spirit in you.