Apple pulled an app from its store, calling it "offensive." Stuart Shepard considers the impact of removing the pro-marriage, pro-lfe Manhattan Declaration.
We encourage you to read the Manahattan Declaration and decide for yourself: http://manhattandeclaration.org/
@gytterdun I would have to disagree with your characterization of Apple's choice as censorship. By definition, censorship has to be carried out by a government. Apple is engaging in commercially-contributed repression of free speech. And it remains to be seen if any government will object.
kgpfraser 1 year ago
@wilibilljones From your implication that you speak on behalf of the Board of Directors of Apple Inc. ("..we are"), are you reporting here that they value profitability above consideration for U.S. democracy? You're saying your board of directors asserts that un-American choice of Apple's is good "for business?" In other words, you mean that Apple's board feels that what's good for Apple doesn't need to be good for America? Maybe Steve can weigh in on your interesting report. And maybe the FBI.
kgpfraser 1 year ago
@exgaysurvivordan Invalid comparison. Movies don't function like telephones, envelopes, or stamps.
kgpfraser 1 year ago
@mercury613 Reductio ad absurdio. You are not engaging the question of Apple banning civil discourse.
kgpfraser 1 year ago
@mercury613 Red herring. The point is Apple contributing to newspeak.
kgpfraser 1 year ago
@mykelb I looked up the word "screed" It is a noun & it means: 1 a long discourse or essay, esp. a diatribe 2 an informal letter, account, or other piece of writing. "Diatribe" means: a bitter, sharply abusive denunciation, attack, or criticism. So, yes this is a screed, but only in a positive sense. It is most definitely NOT a diatribe. It is a survey of the Christian understanding of life, marriage & religious freedom. So democracy must mean to you that only YOU get to speak! Hmmm...
nlkilgore 1 year ago
This is not about the issue of gay "rights" nor is it about the "rights" of Christians. This is about being able to have a discussion about one's beliefs in the public square. When a small group of people (7,700) are able to have their wishes honored over a larger group (45,821), it is called intolerance. Democracy cannot survive if there is no civil discourse or free exchange of ideas. No one on the Christian side has called for the removal of apps that are offensive to them.
imatrvlr1 1 year ago
@ursuspolarisx your point A doesn't match to point B. Christians are't forcing you to buy the application. The application was set in place by choice. If you don't like a certain app. then don't buy it. No one is making you.
skaterman4332 1 year ago
Dear all, if a million extreme muslims signed a petion that said that is was allright to to stone people for insulting Allah, would that make it allright to have an app that showed you how to do it? Is it ok to say anything, just because your belife in one or another god tell you it is right? Is it ok to do anything just because your beliefe in one or another god says it is right? I do not think so and therefore, yes it would be right to revoke all bible apps from appstore.
ursuspolarisx 1 year ago
Excellent video! I’m a minister who has grown to appreciate Apple products since getting my first MacBook Pro four years ago. However, I’ve distanced myself from the company by removing all photos of me with my laptop from my web pages. I'm also considering closing my MobileMe account (which is up for renewal later this month) unless Apple reconsiders their stance on this matter.
signsandwonders 1 year ago