How It All Ends: Risk Management (pt 4 of 7)

Part of the "Expansion Pack" of videos accompanying the video "How It All Ends." See "How It All Ends: Index" for a roadmap to guide you through the expansion pack.

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[DonQuixotedeKaw]

The influence of the Jedi mind trick appears to be waning.

[wonderingmind42]

Let's hope. And work for it.

[stikkontakt4]

im learning more in 9,30 minutes on youtube than in a whole day of school.. remarkable

[TempestStormwind]

*sigh*

Listen to what he's saying. There are no personal attacks on them.

Instead, he's saying to pay attention to your source, since you'll see these names again and again. If you don't pay attention to your source, you won't note they all come from the same names.

Nowhere is he insulting, bullying, or persecuting them.

You are seeing what you want to see.

Compare this to your Lord and Savior Steve MacIntyre, who openly insinuates fraud every chance he gets. THAT is an attack.

[SSedmak]

We had a 3% reduction in GDP from freaking mortgage fraud, and many economists didn't predict it!  It is certain that curtailing fossil fuels will curtail economic activity. Think about everything you do every day which relies one way or another on fossil fuels. Now imagine you can no longer do that. No heat in winter. Less shipped food. No car to drive to work and the store. The mathematical models may not be perfect, but that should not be used to not think about the problem.

[shadezofgrayfulness]

@wonderingmind42 Wish there were a way to send you an MP3 of the Brazilian enviro anthem "Salve As Folhas" by Maria Bethânia, Greg. You can find a version on YouTube if you "Tooble" for it using "Salve As Folhas". In the song, Aroni, the forest god, warns: "Without leaves, there's no Dream, no celebration, no life, no nothing". Aroni is one of the Yoruban minor gods. Interestingly, he will devour those that run from him, but those that face him honestly without fear, he will protect and teach.

[shadezofgrayfulness]

@wonderingmind42 Greg, I very much admire how your approach to the problem tables the more arguable issues. How very Aikido of you! ;-)

Another reaction to AGW Deniers who ask, "What if climate change is all a big hoax," might be:

"What, and we create a better world for nothing? Yeah, I know! What to do with the energy independence, the preserved rainforests and biodiversity, the livable cities, the clean air, clean water, the healthy kids, not to mention the whole SUSTAINABILITY of it all!!!"

[Vynjira]

@shadezofgrayfulness I always find it funny when someone claims to have an open mind and attacks skepticism.

[shadezofgrayfulness]

When I compare the rhetoric of Warmers vs. that of Skeptics, regrettably I can feel my mind closing against the skeptical view. I say regrettably because I think an open mind is essential to rationality. In the face of Glenn Beck and similarly aggressive proselytism, the timber of AGW skepticism is rationally unattractive when compared to the discourse one finds in the YouTube video, "A Conversation with James Hansen". Hansen is thoughtful, measured, and not very positional. No soap. No box.

[shadezofgrayfulness]

@Vynjira Sure. That's fine.

[Vynjira]

@shadezofgrayfulness That is what happens when you have an argument based on fear.

[shadezofgrayfulness]

@Vynjira Yeah... no, we're so not on the same page, Vynjira. I'd respond but I simply wouldn't know where to begin. Never the twain shall meet. Sorry.

[Vynjira]

@shadezofgrayfulness My certainty isn't total, but yours is.. You seem to think throwing money at the problem will get rid of it. IPCC has stated that all of their proposed changes, and the great expense of making those changes will not make any significant difference.

If you're going to use money that could save billions of lives now, you better be certain that there is a significant threat and that we can avoid it.

Not to mention that you're having the government set these long term goals.