Election Preference Fraud Warning

How the major parties stay in power.

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[aussieindependentstv]

Let me be as clear as I can. The current system defrauds the voter. The Australian constitution states the voter shall only vote once See section 30 " but in the choosing of members each elector shall vote only once" NOW again I ask what is the legal definition of the word Vote? VOTES are not ballot papers, one can not count ballot papers and claim they are counting votes! Until someone clearly states the legal definition of the word vote, no more discussion will be entered into!

[locriansrevenge]

damn, that really sux, gl man.

[harrisharrod]

What is the legal definition of the word VOTE please?

[aussieindependentstv]

Yet Bull again, if First past the post was returned it would mean whoever campaigned the best and got the most votes would win, as it was designed to be and WAS in fact. You have failed to explain the legal definition of the word VOTE! You can't can you?

[aussieindependentstv]

Bullsh1T many One Nation seats were won on primary vote. and consider the fact that Pauline Hanson in the Federal Election got almost double the primary vote of Liberal or National it was a combined effort from Labor Liberal and National preferences to beat Pauline Hanson in 1998.

[aussieindependentstv]

That is only true if say Labor or Liberal voters voted for the minor parties as number 2 on the ballot paper however considering that a former Liberal Prime Minister once suggested that the 2 parties join to keep out One Nation, then it would not work out that way if the Liberal voter voted Labor 2 and vice versa. So you admit the flaw in the preference system, so back to First past the post as it was once.

[aussieindependentstv]

Fine then that simply proves that is what the true majority wanted, and that is how it should be, with the fraud removed then whoever campaigns hardest wins.

[guy0307]

In your seat of forde, the result was:

Labor 41,419

Lib 36,869

If it was first-past-the-post the result would've been:

Liberal 26,576

Labor 34,721 

same thing.

[DrIdaho]

Peter Beattie's "Just Vote 1" strategy was adopted in the 2001 Queensland election NOT THE 1998 election.

In the 1998 Queensland election One Nation won 11 seats because the Liberal and National Parties PREFERENCED (yes, preferenced) them ahead of Labor.

[DrIdaho]

You don't seem to understand what preferential voting is.

Preferential voting is a form of RUN-OFF VOTING. In run-off voting the two most popular candidates (the two with the highest number of votes) go to a run-off if the leading candidate fails to get more than 50% of the vote.

Preferential voting is INSTANT RUN-OFF VOTING because the run-off occurs shortly after the first vote.