I had anxiety attacks because I saw no reason to live if Hell was true. If an eternal hell was so real then it would mean most of my family and good chunk of my friends was on their way there, and it was my job to preach and pray for them to save them 24/7. The responsibility was overwhelming and the thought of this being true was terrifying. I was in a deep depression, and went through literal hell, inside of my mind.
One could always reject anything at anytime due to free will. The purpose of destiny is not to control anyone, but to give people the ability to do something that is out of their ability, but that God knows they would like to do, based upon His knowledge of that person. If someone truly loves God and wishes to serve, it is likely that they will obey God's plan, and they will know about it because God will guide them. Men will follow their passions.
Omniscience is like omnipotence, both are abilities of His, but the way in which those abilities are exercised may differ. Omnipotence means God can do anything, but He will use that quality in a limited sense, He won't do anything evil for example. Similarly, when it comes to omniscience, He can know whatever He wishes, but He can also not know if He wishes, for example, God tested Abraham to see if his faith was strong, and there is no need for a test if you already know.
Im not sure I understand your position here, but it seems youre saying the born again can never be lost. Im not sure what my own position is on this, which is why I have some questions. First, where do apostates fit into this? Second, the entire nation of Israel was chosen by God, but then later rejected based on its behavior. Certainly not everyone was rejected, as you point out, but this doesnt speak to the nation. Israel was rejected. How could this be if the chosen are never lost?
I actually explained each passage and Romans 11 in the forum. You are welcome to respond there. I have already discussed that point on this thread. If you dont want to respond in the forum please find my comment concerning that very point in the comments under this video.
There's nothing in either verse (rom 8:29 or the 1 Peter verse) that says anything about God foreseeing faith. It says "whom he foreknew", not "what he foresaw"
What God "knew" was people. "Whom He foreknew". Faith isn't even mentioned.
For God to know someone is the same as saying that God loves someone. Thus, we are predestined according to God's fore-knowledge.
I had anxiety attacks because I saw no reason to live if Hell was true. If an eternal hell was so real then it would mean most of my family and good chunk of my friends was on their way there, and it was my job to preach and pray for them to save them 24/7. The responsibility was overwhelming and the thought of this being true was terrifying. I was in a deep depression, and went through literal hell, inside of my mind.
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BoardingSchools 1 year ago
One could always reject anything at anytime due to free will. The purpose of destiny is not to control anyone, but to give people the ability to do something that is out of their ability, but that God knows they would like to do, based upon His knowledge of that person. If someone truly loves God and wishes to serve, it is likely that they will obey God's plan, and they will know about it because God will guide them. Men will follow their passions.
danmeast 1 year ago
Omniscience is like omnipotence, both are abilities of His, but the way in which those abilities are exercised may differ. Omnipotence means God can do anything, but He will use that quality in a limited sense, He won't do anything evil for example. Similarly, when it comes to omniscience, He can know whatever He wishes, but He can also not know if He wishes, for example, God tested Abraham to see if his faith was strong, and there is no need for a test if you already know.
danmeast 1 year ago
moderate Calvinism what your saying is unclear,
what you mean by foreknowledge?,
Do you mean if any body has true faith in Jesus that itself is a proof of his election/predestination.
your messeage is like hitting the air i mean it not clear what you want to say?
bjcharlesspurgeon 2 years ago
God bless you brother for this message, may your ministry flourish.
In the name of the Son Jesus Christ.
veeunbound 2 years ago
Im not sure I understand your position here, but it seems youre saying the born again can never be lost. Im not sure what my own position is on this, which is why I have some questions. First, where do apostates fit into this? Second, the entire nation of Israel was chosen by God, but then later rejected based on its behavior. Certainly not everyone was rejected, as you point out, but this doesnt speak to the nation. Israel was rejected. How could this be if the chosen are never lost?
rofyle 2 years ago
I actually explained each passage and Romans 11 in the forum. You are welcome to respond there. I have already discussed that point on this thread. If you dont want to respond in the forum please find my comment concerning that very point in the comments under this video.
MODERATECALVINISM 2 years ago
There's nothing in either verse (rom 8:29 or the 1 Peter verse) that says anything about God foreseeing faith. It says "whom he foreknew", not "what he foresaw"
What God "knew" was people. "Whom He foreknew". Faith isn't even mentioned.
For God to know someone is the same as saying that God loves someone. Thus, we are predestined according to God's fore-knowledge.
skalapunk 2 years ago
You say it is unsatisfactory, yet you have no response to it.
MODERATECALVINISM 2 years ago