Priest says Hell is an invention of the church to control people with fear

John Shelby Spong

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[rudibr7878]

Nice to see a christian bishop whos capable of actually going trough thinking processes, as opposed to being a pusher of the oldest mind control crack there is.

I fear for every other "religious" person who have to constantly convince themselves that "theyre on the good path, no harm can be done to me, Im doing the right thing", for absolutely no reason besides the fact they've been indoctrinated by age old fear tatics.

Living life with your mind shut - thats MY idea of hell.

[daso131393]

Probably the most down to earth priest I've ever seen.

[angelfevers1]

@SpeciallyDefined Because he is falling his own personal belief and not some outdated book.

[SpeciallyDefined]

How he gonna say hell doesn't exist hasn't he read the bible if he's a priest

[DanW2X]

@TheCrackerBrony I try to argue like an adult, and all you do is make assumptions, insult me, change the subject, or say"You're done." like some kind of baby. I'd be more than happy to evaluate the flaws in my logic, if you were smart enough to point it out to me like an adult... Seriously dude, don't respond. You're embarrassing yourself. You're right about one thing., you are done.

[DanW2X]

@TheCrackerBrony @TheCrackerBrony "IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH" BELOW THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH" It doesn't even say the word "Hell." Really? You can interpret anything any way you want, but it literally says "Below the Earth" when it talks about Hell, in almost ever instance, in every translation. And why the hell are you talking about physics and 'java programming?' what does that have to do with anything? Also, when have I EVER said I was an atheist? Hahahah You have a lot of growing to do kid.

[TheCrackerBrony]

@DanW2X yet again an atheist takes something out of context, im sick and tired of people taking things out of context like this. this does not say hell is IN the earth.you're inferring it, and i can almost promise you im more educated than you.im 16 and can program java and am learning college physics which probably took you til at least age 18, maybe 19, to even begin. and yes you are close minded, you prove it with every sentence. im done talking to you, you won't see flaws in your own logic.

[DanW2X]

@TheCrackerBrony If I was truly closed minded, I would have stuck with the family tradition and stayed Catholic. I try to be open minded to all ideas about religion, And through research, found them all to be essentially the same. I probably know more about your christian faith than you do. Educate yourself before you call somebody ignorant and closed minded. It makes you a hypocrite. You probably wont respond. That's what they usually do when they're proven wrong. Coward.

[DanW2X]

@TheCrackerBrony "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly: so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the Earth." -Matthew 12:40 .."Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the Earth." -Ephesians 4:9 ..Both verses referring to Christ's decent into Hell after sacrificing his own life. I was raised Catholic, dog. I'm more open minded, and educated than you will ever be. Idiot.

[TheCrackerBrony]

@DanW2X Point out to me WHERE in the Bible it says that Hell is in the Earth, you are a typical atheist, argue against something you don't even know shit about. No where in the Bible does it say Hell is in the Earth's core or anywhere in the Earth at all for that matter. I'm not speaking to you anymore. and that was my point, u can't prove yourself, i can't prove myself, that's where "faith" comes in, you are so close minded... it's pretty sad.

[DanW2X]

@TheCrackerBrony Beneath the mantle of the earth, there is thousand of feet of rock. Beneath that, there is molted nickel, that is the source of the Earth's magnetic pull. No torture chambers or demons. Unless you want to argue that Hell exists in another dimension, well then I cannot prove you wrong, because there is no means of doing so. However, you cannot prove yourself right either.

[TheCrackerBrony]

@DanW2X prove it