In Gallup Poll Daily tracking, conducted Oct. 25-27, Barack Obama has a slight edge over John McCain among the traditional model of likely voters, 49% to 47%. But,among those who have already voted, Obama leads McCain 53% to 43%.
I believe McCain is the middle ground. He is the only one with real military experience (something that was lacking in Bush and also lacking in Obama). It will be another great irony of history if Obama is the one that ends up bombing all Muslims, making W. look like the appeaser.
@rationalific: you are right about the white racist trying to kill him. but that's another story... We know very little about Obama's politics. We know little about Obama, period. I just HOPE that Obama doesn't turn out to be a total despot. (cont)
@mariliadeverdade: Are we damned if he was never a Muslim? Really, for any Muslim (or non-Muslim) who thinks that he's either still a Muslim or an apostate, well, that's their problem. I'll tell you the truth. I'm more afraid of some white racist trying to kill Obama than I am of any Muslim trying to. As for Obama's politics, isn't there any middle ground between appeasing terrorists and bombing all Muslims? I think that Obama could have solutions that Muslims and non-Muslims could live with.
@Ratio: I believe Obama is a Muslim apostate. Some people think he is lying and that he is still a Muslim. My point is (and if you read the article I sent you) that either way, we are damned if he is still a Muslim, and damned if he is an apostate.
@mariliadeverdade: Part 2 - You say that you don't think Obama's a Muslim, yet you start with "Is Obama still a Muslim?" That sentence's meaning is simple. It means that you 1) believe that he was once a Muslim and 2) think that there's a possibility that he might still be one.
As for what Muslims say, I've heard it said that "every child is born Muslim" but I don't put any stock in that belief. Are YOU still a Muslim? If you don't believe what they do, there's no reason to use their logic.
@mariliadeverdade: Part 1 - First of all, I don't speak for Obama, so whatever I say to you is not what you can expect from Obama, just like if a McCain supporter says "Obama supporters should be deported", I don't put those words into McCain's mouth. Secondly, I said, "How about...?" This means that it's a "suggestion", not a "threat" or "command". I can't make you shut up, and I wouldn't if I could.
(cont) it's called "Barack Obama Muslim apostate?"
She says "According to Islamic jurisprudence, children of a Muslim father even an apparently nonpracticing one, such as Obama's father, and irrespective of the mother's faith are automatically Muslims. Most Muslims around the world agree: A child of a Muslim father is a Muslim. Period."
so is this how it is gonna be when Obama takes over? anyone who disagrees needs to shut up? It is not me that thinks he is Muslim, it is the Muslims! google this article by Shireen K. Burki, an adjunct professor of political science at the University of Mary Washington, in Fredericksburg, Va. The daughter of a Muslim father and a Christian mother, she spent her childhood in Islamabad, Pakistan, where she studied Islam at school.
@mariladeverdade: Stop the misinformation. Obama was never a Muslim. His father was a non-practicing Muslim, and nobody killed him. Obama wasn't raised as a Muslim. And, by the way, terrorists would be happy to kill ANY president. And, far from being "tested", you merely need good security. How about keeping your ignorant mouth shut if you can only lie.
Has anyone heard? I heard a rumor that Obama voted "present" this morning at his precinct in Chicago.
waiting4guffman 3 years ago
I believe McCain is the middle ground. He is the only one with real military experience (something that was lacking in Bush and also lacking in Obama). It will be another great irony of history if Obama is the one that ends up bombing all Muslims, making W. look like the appeaser.
mariliadeverdade 3 years ago
@rationalific: you are right about the white racist trying to kill him. but that's another story... We know very little about Obama's politics. We know little about Obama, period. I just HOPE that Obama doesn't turn out to be a total despot. (cont)
mariliadeverdade 3 years ago
@mariliadeverdade: Are we damned if he was never a Muslim? Really, for any Muslim (or non-Muslim) who thinks that he's either still a Muslim or an apostate, well, that's their problem. I'll tell you the truth. I'm more afraid of some white racist trying to kill Obama than I am of any Muslim trying to. As for Obama's politics, isn't there any middle ground between appeasing terrorists and bombing all Muslims? I think that Obama could have solutions that Muslims and non-Muslims could live with.
Rationalific 3 years ago
@Ratio: I believe Obama is a Muslim apostate. Some people think he is lying and that he is still a Muslim. My point is (and if you read the article I sent you) that either way, we are damned if he is still a Muslim, and damned if he is an apostate.
mariliadeverdade 3 years ago
@mariliadeverdade: Part 2 - You say that you don't think Obama's a Muslim, yet you start with "Is Obama still a Muslim?" That sentence's meaning is simple. It means that you 1) believe that he was once a Muslim and 2) think that there's a possibility that he might still be one.
As for what Muslims say, I've heard it said that "every child is born Muslim" but I don't put any stock in that belief. Are YOU still a Muslim? If you don't believe what they do, there's no reason to use their logic.
Rationalific 3 years ago
@mariliadeverdade: Part 1 - First of all, I don't speak for Obama, so whatever I say to you is not what you can expect from Obama, just like if a McCain supporter says "Obama supporters should be deported", I don't put those words into McCain's mouth. Secondly, I said, "How about...?" This means that it's a "suggestion", not a "threat" or "command". I can't make you shut up, and I wouldn't if I could.
Rationalific 3 years ago
(cont) it's called "Barack Obama Muslim apostate?"
She says "According to Islamic jurisprudence, children of a Muslim father even an apparently nonpracticing one, such as Obama's father, and irrespective of the mother's faith are automatically Muslims. Most Muslims around the world agree: A child of a Muslim father is a Muslim. Period."
mariliadeverdade 3 years ago
so is this how it is gonna be when Obama takes over? anyone who disagrees needs to shut up? It is not me that thinks he is Muslim, it is the Muslims! google this article by Shireen K. Burki, an adjunct professor of political science at the University of Mary Washington, in Fredericksburg, Va. The daughter of a Muslim father and a Christian mother, she spent her childhood in Islamabad, Pakistan, where she studied Islam at school.
mariliadeverdade 3 years ago
@mariladeverdade: Stop the misinformation. Obama was never a Muslim. His father was a non-practicing Muslim, and nobody killed him. Obama wasn't raised as a Muslim. And, by the way, terrorists would be happy to kill ANY president. And, far from being "tested", you merely need good security. How about keeping your ignorant mouth shut if you can only lie.
Rationalific 3 years ago