Uploaded by Optera34 on Oct 27, 2009
PART 2
the depravity of man
This is a video series on the doctrines of salvation as I have come to know them. I do not claim to know everything there is to know about this subject and can also admit that in the future I may be shown BY GOD where I may be in error and then there fore change my views acordingly. However these videos were not made to start a flame war, enter a theological debate via the Youtube comment section or to start arguements with people for the sake of an arguement. I have come to know that no matter what theological position you hold there will allways be one to tell you that you are wrong. There for if I am, I expect that God will correct me and open my eyes to my error in his good time. Whether that be from the loving correction of a brother or sister in Christ or through his word and prayer. What I do know though is that the current gospel and method of evagalism that is preached today falls woefully short and can be out right dangerus to the human soul and I intend on making my case for such a claim through this series of videos. The current idea that Jesus loves you just the way you are and has a wonderful plan for your life if you'll just repeat this prayer after me and ask him to come into your heart and he will make your life better and take you to heaven when you die is false and this method of evangalism cannot even be found in the Bible.
The one who has been taught this system of easy believeism all their lives as I have and comes to this video with an open mind, a open heart and with a desire to know the truth and learns even one thing from what I have done here. That is who these videos are for. for the few poeple who may watch this and say this realy spoke to me, even if it is just one person then it was worth it and may God get all the glory.
Please feel free to make comments good or bad but I will not engage in a debate in a Youtube comment section. My Lords salvation, offices and methods are much to vast and deep to even begin to hope to give them any justice through this video much less the comment section of it. I may respond to some comments good and bad as I choose to but will not engage in bantering back and forth about how wrong you are and how wright I am or visa versa. If my theology on this matter is correct then I trust that God will use it to open the hearts and minds of those of his choosing. If I am wrong then I trust and pray that he will open my eyes and correct me and I willbe happy to delete the videos if in the passing of time I find them to be off base and out of step with the true Gospel of our Lord. However in any case I trust in the Holy Spirit to work in me and in all those he wills to work in. No amount of argueing to prove a point on yours or my part will ever convert one person untill the Lord decides to convert them. And such argueing can even hinder those who genuinly seek truth into feeling all is lost and truth can never be found or fully known. I strongly beleive our relyiance should be on Christ power and the Holy Spirit to change the hearts and minds of men and raise them from the dead not the arguements and stratgies of men.
If however you do have doctrinal issues I invite you to leave me a personal message so as to make your point with out being a stumbling block to others. And I will respond to you as long as messages are done Biblicaly, in a spirit of Christian love and for a desire to seek Biblical truth. Any messages sent to me based on your own logic or feelings and traditions or the "thats just not fair arguement" will be promply dismissed. The key to accepting many of the doctrines of grace is a complete submitance to the soveriegnty of God. When you get to the point of saying "I lay down all my own preconcieved ideas, of who God is and what he can and cannot do and admit that he is God and I am not and he can do with his creation as he wills" that will be your spring board to understanding much of these doctrines. the doctrines of grace bent toward giving God all the glory and honor and praise and keeping none fore our selves no matter how small.
In closing I do pray that some can be learned from this series and it can be found useful to my brothers and sisters in Christ and to any others with a desire to know more about Jesus Christ our Lord and there own personal salvation.
May God bless these videos to your soul and may his loving grace be with us all...
By the grace of God
Dei Gratia
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i have this video and i watch so many times now i so like it
AntiAtheist777 1 year ago
This is a great reminder that what the Bible says is true, when men, regardless of weather or not they are theistic or not, if they turn from God's commands and do what is pleasing to them, they will cause bad things to happen.
BigAl9432 2 years ago
"You cannot say the Reformation and Catholicism are actually the same and you cannot blame Protestantism for what Catholicism did"
Both systems promoted the same ignorance. both systems made martyrs of believers of the other.
The bible is a severely flawed document, in any case.
And you seem to forget that the very bible you quote from, was voted into canonic existance, by the very catholic bishops you would condemnas "whores" - at Nicaea and subsequent councils.
Tobytrim 2 years ago
And Optera34 didn't even say that any form of theism was good or somehow equal.
ghghes 2 years ago
It was Catholicism that dominated Europe during the Medieval Age, not Biblical Christianity. It was the Reformation, which opposed Catholicism, that led to the downfall of that satanic system which was ruling Europe and which had banned the reading of the Bible.
You cannot say the Reformation and Catholicism are actually the same and you cannot blame Protestantism for what Catholicism did, especially since Protestants have been pointing to Catholicism as being the Whore of Babylon (Rev. 17&18)
ghghes 2 years ago
Your looking at the violence of a culture influenced by 1000's of tears of theistic influences.
If you're saying that more theism is the answer, you should point out the great big FAIL in it so far.
This is perticularly true of the judeo/christian god that influences the dark age thinking of Muslin and Christian cultures.
Tobytrim 2 years ago
man is nothing but sin but BUT JESUS IS THE ONE WHO CLEANS IT
dtmpowerboss 2 years ago
So sad - excellent use of footage, I like they way you place the scripture over the the news reels. Very compelling.
fruitofspirit 2 years ago
The first chapters of Romans are a good antidote for "self-esteem".
daafith 2 years ago