if you were to take SouthNarc's "ECQC" class this point is illustrated VERY well, especially in the force-on-force portions of the class. This stuff works!
the advantage to going to the pectoral instead of canting the muzzle parallel to the ground in position #2 is weapons retention. the only time you would fire from that position is if your opponent is within arms reach. if you were to drop your elbow and bring the slide level with the ground, the pistol is now exposed enough to be grabbed. although the pistol is not level with the ground, it is canted slightly inward which places rounds in the center line of the body.
Interesting: I hadn't seen the #2 position with the thumb & pectoral reference. Very cool.
But what is the advantage to going into the pectoral instead of canting the muzzle parallel to the ground immediately after it clears the holster? Wouldn't this particular #2 position offer a more immediate first-fire point?
Actually yes, I HAVE tried it, and it didn't, because I did it right. You can find videos of guys training that exact technique live-fire all over YouTube.
Doesn't work like that. Having the thumb indexed on the pectoral gives the gun stand-off distance from your clothes/gear. There is a gap between the slide and your chest.
Nice Video, but one critic thing I have been taught by Navy SEAL shooters is the canting of the pistol when it exits the holster. If this man were to try to actually fire the weapon from the #2 position, the slide/action would likely contact a part of him or his clothing, then he would have to manually cycle the jam, and ditch the proper draw.
if you were to take SouthNarc's "ECQC" class this point is illustrated VERY well, especially in the force-on-force portions of the class. This stuff works!
staticbentz 11 months ago
the advantage to going to the pectoral instead of canting the muzzle parallel to the ground in position #2 is weapons retention. the only time you would fire from that position is if your opponent is within arms reach. if you were to drop your elbow and bring the slide level with the ground, the pistol is now exposed enough to be grabbed. although the pistol is not level with the ground, it is canted slightly inward which places rounds in the center line of the body.
staticbentz 11 months ago
It would be helpful if someone put one of this up with minor changes needed to make it work for AIWB carry.
functionaldrills 1 year ago
Holy hell it's the Materkowsis! Great vid guys.
guyleethegreat 1 year ago
Interesting: I hadn't seen the #2 position with the thumb & pectoral reference. Very cool.
But what is the advantage to going into the pectoral instead of canting the muzzle parallel to the ground immediately after it clears the holster? Wouldn't this particular #2 position offer a more immediate first-fire point?
Great video! Keep 'em coming!!
bombilla42 2 years ago
Counter to usual, however, these guys are teaching it the right way.
markdl000 2 years ago
Actually yes, I HAVE tried it, and it didn't, because I did it right. You can find videos of guys training that exact technique live-fire all over YouTube.
RRFCaptain 2 years ago
Doesn't work like that. Having the thumb indexed on the pectoral gives the gun stand-off distance from your clothes/gear. There is a gap between the slide and your chest.
RRFCaptain 3 years ago 2
Nice Video, but one critic thing I have been taught by Navy SEAL shooters is the canting of the pistol when it exits the holster. If this man were to try to actually fire the weapon from the #2 position, the slide/action would likely contact a part of him or his clothing, then he would have to manually cycle the jam, and ditch the proper draw.
mopar92 3 years ago
excellent video!
Obinjess 3 years ago 2