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Anyone who wishes to read over the comments will see that just like a typical arrogant Christian you made the foolish claim about morality and your deity.
Then when given scriptural support against your claim you attempt to twist and obscure the passages. Claiming I was ignorant etc..
Finally when unable to find scriptural support of your projection on the bible you throw out some insults and run.
Sadly I'd guess your opinion hasn't changed and you'll go on making your silly claims elsewhere.
Thing is "equal in Christ" as you put it, doesn't stop the slave being beaten by his master. It doesn't stop the slave being owned by the master... I propose it is immoral to own other humans; that slavery is immoral. Something your deity failed to do...
Again with this "in Christ" business.. pity it has no tangible benefit in reality. Yes I do have a problem with that as it's called sexism and I'm against it...again something your deity and yourself seem alright with.
This is enough for me tonight....why don't you try answering some of my questions while I'm gone?
Answer this "where is the scriptural support of your position?" Do you think you're just projecting what you want to be true onto the scriptures because you're aware of how barbaric they are?
Again - YOU don't make claims for scriptures and then pretend like I am now supposed to 'show you otherwise'. 2000 years of scholars never even came up with those claims but some 'online atheist' makes them then they can show us the reasoning behind them.
and no, I don't have to twist interpretations because I actually understand the context, the theological implications, what was written to who and why and what is 'implied' or not. YOU DONT.
What are you saying ElProximo? Is it that the "word of God" can't be taken by word? Why do you think it needs to be interpreted? My guess would be because you are aware of how horrid some of it is but you don't want to admit it to yourself?
My complaint was the bible has no denouncement of slavery and other immoral acts, rather it has instructions on how to beat your slave and commands women not to teach etc.
Where is the denouncement of these immoral actions?
And my original complaint was that with no denouncement (rather we find endorsement) of many acts we civilized humans find horrid and immoral how can you seriously attempt to claim divine morality?
You must be able to see just how pitiful and laughable such a claim is. The deity found in the bible is not the "author of morality".... the idea is ludicrous and best left in the dark, barbaric and gloomy past where it belongs.
I'd like it if you would stop replying to me. You are not good at this. At this point you are just making annoying teenager type 'taunt questions' (which are actually bluffs as you don't even know what the answer might be), and, You are also making up things and I believe doing so because (like a Hyena) you think its going to frustrate ,me and get me 'spinning in circles' with the repeated ankle nips here, so, You may now stfu and go sit down. Thx
But your actual 'complaint' is with practical instructions on real treatment and actual relationships between the Master and Slave, and, even to LOVE the other.
Roman Slave systems 'could' be bad news but they were not what you suppose (even BEFORE the converted Christians were to make theirs equal and kind relationships), and, Indeed Slaves were often powerful and wealthy, or, there by choice as indentured servants, but, regardless. Christians had new rules to be equals and love who they had.
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Then when given scriptural support against your claim you attempt to twist and obscure the passages. Claiming I was ignorant etc..
Finally when unable to find scriptural support of your projection on the bible you throw out some insults and run.
Sadly I'd guess your opinion hasn't changed and you'll go on making your silly claims elsewhere.
I propose it is immoral to own other humans; that slavery is immoral. Something your deity failed to do...
Again with this "in Christ" business.. pity it has no tangible benefit in reality.
Yes I do have a problem with that as it's called sexism and I'm against it...again something your deity and yourself seem alright with.
Answer this "where is the scriptural support of your position?" Do you think you're just projecting what you want to be true onto the scriptures because you're aware of how barbaric they are?
Enjoy the rest of your day/evening,
DB.
2000 years of scholars never even came up with those claims but some 'online atheist' makes them then they can show us the reasoning behind them.
and no, I don't have to twist interpretations because I actually understand the context, the theological implications, what was written to who and why and what is 'implied' or not.
YOU DONT.
However..I strongly return your best wishes.
My guess would be because you are aware of how horrid some of it is but you don't want to admit it to yourself?
My complaint was the bible has no denouncement of slavery and other immoral acts, rather it has instructions on how to beat your slave and commands women not to teach etc.
Where is the denouncement of these immoral actions?
You must be able to see just how pitiful and laughable such a claim is. The deity found in the bible is not the "author of morality".... the idea is ludicrous and best left in the dark, barbaric and gloomy past where it belongs.
At this point you are just making annoying teenager type 'taunt questions' (which are actually bluffs as you don't even know what the answer might be),
and,
You are also making up things and I believe doing so because (like a Hyena) you think its going to frustrate ,me and get me 'spinning in circles' with the repeated ankle nips here,
so,
You may now stfu and go sit down.
Thx
It was you who started the boastful claims and assertions, I merely called you on it.
Surely alarm bells must sound in your head when even the most devout of believers can't take their deity by its own supposed word.
and,
even to LOVE the other.
Roman Slave systems 'could' be bad news but they were not what you suppose (even BEFORE the converted Christians were to make theirs equal and kind relationships),
and,
Indeed Slaves were often powerful and wealthy,
or,
there by choice as indentured servants,
but,
regardless.
Christians had new rules to be equals and love who they had.