Uploaded by SmartScarecrow on Jun 8, 2008
I posted a video a few days ago that I figured maybe 100 or so of my regular subscribers might get a kick out of seeing. Well, it turned out that in 3 days, nearly 600 people found it of interest. Wow ... guess I should shut up and just play music more often. I mean no disrespect, but that video was supposed to just be a teaser aimed at my regular viewers to get them ready for a recent development.
Some of the top researchers you have seen here on YouTube and some others who tend to keep their work more private have joined forces. Our purpose is to advance the state of the art more rapidly than any one of us might be able to do on our own.
As it happens, the design first published by Tero Ranta in 2006 will be the first of many that we intend to take to its maximum potential. I would expect that other proven designs might get similar attention as we move forward. And there may even be a few surprises along the way as we experiment with some things you may never have seen before.
My contribution to this effort is called "Tero Ranta meets Bob Boyce". This will be a large format Tero system based on 101 8" x 8" 316 stainless plates. It will be optimized to run on rectified house current at about 155vDC. Planned capacity of the device is 10 LPM with an efficiency rating in the 6.5mmw (+/- a couple) range. If I am successful at getting the Bob Boyce inspired electronics to work as planned, it might just do a bit more than that. We shall see.
You will soon see other researchers developing devices based on common components. Each researcher will add their own special features and optimize their device for a unique purpose.
Once a design has been proven effective and made suitable for volume production, we hope to produce "KITS" with pre-fabricated components that we can offer for sale to interested parties at much less cost than they could produce similar on their own.
Hope you find the next few months interesting.
Stay tuned ... the best really is yet to come ...
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the sleeving material is chemical resistant pvc wire sleeve sold by the foot at mcmaster-carr ... the size is .25 internal diameter ... it is very inexpensive ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
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what is the sleeve composed of which insulates the bolts? I've actually finished all of the drilling on my 61 plate cell for the bolts. I still need to drill the water refill holes which will allow a .5" pvc h2o tube to pass through. I'll need insulating sleeves about .25" for the holes I've drilled. Thanks for any info. Keep us all closely updated :).
crackahcrackah 3 years ago
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if you are going to try to make a device like this by hand, I would suggest you take a look a my previous design, the design work of Tero Ranta and a couple newcommers here on YouTube called TSIMONIN and ARDENTSCIENTIST. all of these use a simpler approach that does not require so many precise holes to be drilled ... from experience, can tell you will work well. We had technical reasons for using the "bolts through the plates" design that are pushing the envelope a bit.
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
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...i was scared to drill that many holes in ss plates. i watched some other videos in the past from you, but this time i'm hooked and i'd like to build something similar; the concept seems to have a lot of advantages. thank you for all your work and for sharing it with us!
pgpeachess 3 years ago
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yes ... you will indeed use some sort of gasket or spacer material ... it must be air/water tight between the plates and must be a good electrical insulator ... I have used 1/8 and 1/16 acrilyc sheet, phenolic fiberglass and a number of other materials ... I just find the gaskets to be the simplest, easiest to deal with ... if you bolt on outside of plates, you will need a bit more intrustion into the device to get it seal but it will work fine ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
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...what if, instead of gaskets, i would use something like TSIMONIN(on you tube) to seal the plates, without the gaskets or the long bolts, just the end pieces holding everything together by a few bolts. would that work?
pgpeachess 3 years ago
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I have to wonder if you could eliminate the current leakage between cells, how much more efficient would this design be?
moffett8 8 months ago
@moffett8 - talk to HHOPWR about that ... he has taken this simplistic design to another level of performance ... keep in mind, this stuff is 2 years old now ... when I showed this design, there only a handful of people doing it this way ... today it is pretty much the standard ... but the leading edge has pushed forward a bit ...
SmartScarecrow 8 months ago
thank you! your videos are great & easy to folow,i can do every thing by myself i just dont know how to make the rubber seals can i buy them from you ? (or any one els) & have them mailed to me to Taiwan? will this cell work with the electronic sercut designd by "Zero" do u use nutral plats? what is ur HHO Liter/min at12v production? i have so many questens but i think itll do for now. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE GREAT WORK!
vshart 3 years ago
my devices are typically powered off standard US wall current, 120vAC. I use a bridge rectifier/capacitor combo and sometimes a Variac. The power applied is normally about 150vDC with a 120Hz pulse. I use between 60 and 110 plated depending on what my plans are but try to maintain voltage per plate gap in the 2v-2.5v range. So yes, I use a LOT of neutral plates. Typically, I only make connections on 2 or three plates with all the others being neutral.
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago