Such a Thing as 'Just War?' Shane Claiborne

Revolutionary author Shane Claiborne shares what he believes to be the best case fr a just war and why it isn't following with Jesus' teachings.

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[LampPlaceThing]

@YouTubricant You have successfully rebuked my examples.

But ...Wait wait wait are you a Christian? "You idiot"

[YouTubricant]

@LampPlaceThing You idiot. That is literally the exact same thing as saying that Jesus was okay with prostitution because he didn't rebuke the prostitutes he met as soon as he met them. Congratulations, sir, on your remarkably poor argument.

[OKandNOWwhat]

All who argue for mortal combat cite circumstantial evidence rather than quoting Jesus. The fact is: You cannot find one instance of unrebuked physical retaliation or attack by a Christian in the New Testament. All you see is submission to unjust arrest, imprisonment, and death. The Sermon on the Mount makes no allowances for retaliation. What part of loving your enemies is satisfied in killing them? When Jesus spoke of buying a sword in Luke 22, He was using a metaphor, like in Mark 8:15-21.

[LampPlaceThing]

Oh there is so much I want say and express upon this matter. I wish most pacifists could believe me when I tell them "war is NOT all about 'justine and vengeance,' but to give others a sense of the reality of death spiritually and physically."

If you could bring back a man from heaven who regretted his atrocities on earth, he'd might tell a pacifist, he wished it wasn't so easy for him to sin. whoa is the man with regret. Please have a guard watching those who'd murder if left unchecked.

[LampPlaceThing]

0:51 "after that you don't see Christians picking up swords, you know again for several hundred years...and... for unmistakably the first few hundred years of Christianity are committed to non-violence, and willing to die for the cross"

WHAT are you telling me for the first few hundred years, no soldier was a "christian?"

Mathew 8:5- When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for helpJesus said to him, "I will go and heal him."

Jesus did not tell him to be a pacifist.

[flashgm41]

I only need one and it is the famous Jewish historian Josephus. Please do some open, honest investigation yourself.

[flashgm41]

The so-called Christian religion is not the same as advanced by Jesus. Just because we label a person/s as Christians does not make them so. Old addage says "Sitting in a church house no more makes one a christian than sitting in a henhouse makes one a chicken. I have never recognized these Christian criminals and murderers as Christian and never will. Don't throw Jesus out with the bath water.

[max2right]

@flashgm41 Making unsupported claims is easy. i claim dogs can fly when no one is watching. Offering a claim that i have evidence is easy. Offering the actual evidence is the hard part. List for me five historical references, other than the bible, that  such a person existed.

[max2right]

@flashgm41 Christians kill each other in Ireland, they killed each other in the Balkans until they united to kill muslims. There in nothing peaceful or non-violent about the christian religion. Google the "no true Scotsman failacy.

[flashgm41]

@JeremiahPTTN

Killing may not always be evil, but it is rarely good. Do you have to kill the man that breaks into your house?

Why is it usually assumed that we have to kill someone to stop them.