Ron Paul & Rand Paul on Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano 11/13/10
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☑ First they ignore you (Pre-2007).
☑ Then they laugh at you (2007-2008).
☑ Then they fight you (2008-2011).
☐ Then you win.
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if i was on the show, there would be 4 libertarians :D
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@christo930 It's not what I believe, it's what the law says. Just because YOU don't like what the law says and what the limits are does not mean that YOU get to use FEDERAL FORCE to twist things to YOUR MORALITY. I've provided you with a plethora of links and evidence that state just the opposite, I've supplied you with evidence showing that Ron Paul himself says you don't know what you're talking about, you provided? Oh that's right your worthless big government opinion.
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@christo930 Your argument is terrible, marriage licenses are in fact a handout for taxation and several other things, as far as those other things are concerned, you need to make up your mind. If you don't need a marriage license for any of those things. Then the gay marriage issue is moot, if you do then without question a marriage license is a government handouts license. So you're either arguing for something that's completely unnecessary or you're arguing for a government handouts license
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@bigboss686 Do you honestly believe that every single issue in the world needs to be explicitly expressed in the constitution or it becomes a 10th amendment issue? The fed gov has enumerated powers, not enumerated issues. Abortion and marriage are both seriously intertwined with rights outlined in the amendments to the constitution and that is what gives the fed gov the power to overturn state laws that don't respect the constitution.
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@bigboss686 WHAT? How can you possibly say something so stupid. Marriage is far more than a license to get gov handouts. It involves custody of children, medical decisions, private benefits, and dozens of others.
You want gov to limit people's freedoms, and call ME a big gov libertarian? NO, you are the one who wants gov force of your morals/principles on other people.
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@christo930 Far as marriage is concerned it's a license to acquire certain government benefits/handouts. Therefore, it falls under treatment, not protection. Just because someone else is getting a handout doesn't mean you're entitled to it. I know difficult concept for you BIG government libertarians to get, but that's the way it is. BTW your bigoted hate directed at religious people is quite disgusting, I'm giving states the right to say yes or no, you're forcing everyone to your point of view.
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@christo930 WRONG, court only has that power if it is listed under the federal enumerated powers, neither marriage, nor abortion are enumerated in the Constitution. Therefore they default to the 10th amendment. tenthamendmentcenter(.)com/201
0/01/the-constitution-and-abor tion/ Again it is YOU pushing for INCREASED federal power over the issue when the Fed has no claim on it via the Constitution,under the Constitution it is left to the individual state powers to decide, you lose so says Ron Paul -
@bigboss686 The court has the constitutional authority to overturn state laws that are unconstitutional. Denial of right to contract alone is enough to overturn any anti gay marriage bill. There is also equal protection under the law (I don't buy your previous rebuttal). You want to use big gov to force YOUR religious views on others. You, like most Christian right (not libertarian), LOVE big gov when it suits YOUR needs. Anti abortion laws have similar problems like 4th amendment..
@iluvsystemofadown Damn, you're stupider than a bag of hammers. It doesn't mean you hate gay people because you want them to follow the law as opposed to trying to enact Fiat declarations in the court system that ignore the legal process an the rule of law. Marriage is not listed as a federal power, therefore, it defaults to the states by 10th amendment. Same thing with abortion, federal tax money has no place going to fund it, unless it's in the Constitution as an enumerated power. Damn son.
bigboss686 1 year ago 25
@iluvsystemofadown LMAO, look little guy, you already proved he were a mouth breathing troglodyte with your earlier statement of brazen stupidity. No need to make another comment to further hammer the point home as it was illustrated in crystal clarity with your earlier statement
bigboss686 1 year ago 13