Uploaded by MuhaddithDotOrg on Dec 27, 2010
Muhaddith.org - Klingschor and non Muslim Hypocrisy Exposed. This is a video response to " Klingschor " ( whose real name may be Vincent L'Orient ) who makes the following accusation in his video " Muhaddith.org (and Muslim Hypocrisy) Exposed ":
Klingschor - in this video I intend to expose Muhaddith.org as an intellectually bankrupt organization that deliberately skews information, twists facts and evidence.
Klingschor's video, focused specifically on our video " Prophet Muhammad & Aisha Part 1, Islam Answers Pedophilia " which we first uploaded in March 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEwmfIgSQQU
http://www.muhaddith.org/EarlyMarriage
The research took us 4 months, and we found that the norm of marriage right after puberty was acceptable, because in pre-modern times, psychological maturity was reached at the age of puberty.
And Islam's minimum age of marriage was higher than all pre-modern law, including 19th century U.S. common law, plus Islam's marital law requires psychological maturity (in addition to reaching puberty).
Our 3 page video transcript had 176 references with 20 pages of footnotes for the source text with hyperlinks to the source documents.
Now, Klingschor only mentions 2 sentences from our entire video, and distorts them to infer meanings that contradict what we explicitly stated in our video.
Klingschor's 1st false claim is that the Christian Church disregarded biology and allowed consummation before puberty.
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Klingschor's 2nd false claim, is that we used this quote about Age of Consent Laws as a reference for the ranges of puberty.
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Klingschor's 3rd false claim is that our footnotes for the term " age of reason " did not include the Church's marital requirement of the " use of reason ".
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Klingschor's 4th false claim is that we did not mention puberty as a requirement in marital law.
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Klingschor's 5th misrepresentation is quoting the LATEST Church Law as if it's an OLDER Church Law:
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Klingschor's 6th false claim is again misrepresenting our data about the ranges of puberty in women.
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In conclusion, based on the sheer number of misrepresentations Klingschor makes, it's hard to believe a single word he says. The evidence we presented today discredits Klingschor's intelligence and proves that he's the one who was " intellectually bankrupt ". And the question of the day is whether Klingschor was also intellectually DISHONEST. There could be a lot of reasons why it's so hard for Klingschor to make a true statement, so let's have some fun with it in the comments.
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muhaddith.org Klingschor non muslim hypocrisy exposed Vincent l'Orient
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FAIL!!!
halflifeproductionz 1 month ago
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Excellent video. Well presented. Thank you!!
john7101 1 month ago
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it shows when u r on disbelief how the brain challenges itself not only that how unintelligent they can become may ALLAH reward u for this video brothers
Militant7861 2 months ago in playlist Islam Answers Fitna, Prophet Muhammad & Aisha, Geert Wilders
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Great video brother, masha´allah our religion is so clean and peaceful and needs to be defended against zionist powers trying to dehuminize us.
Wassouf10 2 months ago
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@icriosphinx Lol except for the fact that pedophile rape, sexual abuse, teen pregnancy and such are rampant in the Islamic world.
dafreemazon 2 months ago
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1.Reason is what gave rise to the Ahla sunnah wal Jama'at.
2.Christian scholars more often resort to Blind faith then Muslim scholars.
3.We are all guilty of being prejudiced at some point in out life and it is only reasonable to assume most people do not make the effort to seek clarity.
4. Taqiyaah is a shia doctrine that I do not practise.
Okay good bye and I have a good life.
MrGrandDragon 3 months ago
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@MrGrandDragon Just when I think you've hit the bottom of hypocrisy and anti-reason and anti-humanity, you demonstrate you can go even further...
I really have nothing more to tell you, since in your world reason doesn't count. Prejudice, blind faith and (self)deceit in the name of that faith do.
grozde 3 months ago
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Yes! MY assumption is all I have. YOU go with someone else's assumption - and are ready to sacrifice our daughter to it!
I say that if an old guy is a paedophile, he either is NOT a prophet, or IS a prophet of an unworthy god.
YOU say that if someone calls himself a prophet - it's enough for you to give him your child!
grozde 3 months ago
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In Islam when a human being attains sexual awareness when experiencing puberty, it is recommended for that individual to enjoin in a partnership (inherent with commitment and responsibility) to an individual of the opposite gender. Islam urges to safeguard ones private parts from intimacy out side of this provision. The most beneficent and healthy solution to the natural anxiety and frustration of puberty is to be in a committed relationship where you can enjoy safe sex.
MrGrandDragon 3 months ago
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1. That is your assumption based on your narrow relativistic perceptions and considerations of what a prophet would or would not want. Suffice to say a prophet would take precedence & follow Gods law rather then his own whims and fancies.
2. My emphasis on the word reality was precisely to emphasize the point of the assumption I made considering how you failed to grasp it the first time. I did not agree to your question since it was void of context.
3. my heads hurting!
MrGrandDragon 3 months ago
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I've had several run ins with him in the past and his "refutations". He seems to have reading comprehension problems and often inserts his own context into the texts to support his views.
I just gave up after awhile because it was useless trying to convince him and his audience of their dishonesty.
DawahFilms 9 months ago
@DawahFilms
have you seen his last 2 videos? It seems he has turned over a new leaf, and his last 2 videos are actually debunking the false claims of Islam haters. Subhan Allah.
MuhaddithDotOrg 9 months ago