@shawnchi By the way, if English is your third language, you're doing fairly well with it.
It is a very complex language, however, and for those learning it as a secondary or tertiary language, it is going to be full of pit-falls like the confusion you're having here. Many words can have specialized meaning when used in particular contexts. The best example of this is the word "theory". It can mean anything from a haphazard guess to the highest order of scientific explanation.
@shawnchi Ah, see, I never said ALL, you assumed that. Go back and re-read my posts. Furthermore, you're misusing the term generalize; there is no fallacy involved in generalizing - it only becomes a fallacy when one over-generalizes. When speaking about heterogeneous groups, like the population of a nation-state, it is necessary to generalize - in fact it is the only way one can speak about such groups as a whole. Don’t worry, kid, you’ll get it eventually.
@JoeNietzsche And since you are trying to present a logical fallacy as fact, I can come to the conclusion you are the uneducated cretin and a hypocrite. Your use of perfect grammar won't help your argument here.
@JoeNietzsche Yes, in fact English is my third language, and I am only in high school - though it is a international school that offers very high quality education. I still do not see how my reasoning is flawed. I assume your argument here is that all Americans are uneducated cretins. That by itself is a logical fallacy. It's called a hasty generalization (I am taking AP Lang in school right now). As my counter argument, I state that you cannot generalize an entire country my a small sample.
@shawnchi You're really throwing that term around - Being uneducated is not the same as being ignorant of a very isolated piece of information. Either English is your second language or you're kind of an idiot.
@shawnchi It is clear that you either do not have any sort of higher education or it is localized to some sort of technical expertise – nothing that would help you here because you have demonstrated some of the most flawed reasoning I’ve seen in a while. Trust me; you are, at this point, only embarrassing yourself in public.
@shawnchi Without a prior qualifier, speaking about any population necessitates generalization. As for religion; the US is not the most religious on the planet but that’s a bit like insisting one isn’t particularly fat because they aren’t the fattest. The US IS the most religious of western nations. On the Rape of Nanking; over time and in the absence of contradiction, yes, propaganda can have the effect of reducing a target population’s capacity for reasoning.
@JoeNietzsche Any well educated person would know that a country cannot be generalized. A Chinese person cannot locate China on a bordered map (Yes, I have met a few). Does that make all Chinese people stupid? No. A Norwegian cannot spot the difference between Chinese and Koreans. Does that make them stupid? No. The Japanese government censors the Japanese massacre of Chinese in WWII. Yes it is propaganda, but that doesn't make Japanese people stupid. Do you not see how stupid generalization is?
@ambrose361 hahahaha.. but he didn't hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.. fucking stink cracker/honky
jgutter34 4 hours ago
should of ran over all of them niggers
ambrose361 16 hours ago
@shawnchi By the way, if English is your third language, you're doing fairly well with it.
It is a very complex language, however, and for those learning it as a secondary or tertiary language, it is going to be full of pit-falls like the confusion you're having here. Many words can have specialized meaning when used in particular contexts. The best example of this is the word "theory". It can mean anything from a haphazard guess to the highest order of scientific explanation.
JoeNietzsche 21 hours ago
@shawnchi Ah, see, I never said ALL, you assumed that. Go back and re-read my posts. Furthermore, you're misusing the term generalize; there is no fallacy involved in generalizing - it only becomes a fallacy when one over-generalizes. When speaking about heterogeneous groups, like the population of a nation-state, it is necessary to generalize - in fact it is the only way one can speak about such groups as a whole. Don’t worry, kid, you’ll get it eventually.
JoeNietzsche 22 hours ago
@JoeNietzsche And since you are trying to present a logical fallacy as fact, I can come to the conclusion you are the uneducated cretin and a hypocrite. Your use of perfect grammar won't help your argument here.
shawnchi 22 hours ago
@JoeNietzsche Yes, in fact English is my third language, and I am only in high school - though it is a international school that offers very high quality education. I still do not see how my reasoning is flawed. I assume your argument here is that all Americans are uneducated cretins. That by itself is a logical fallacy. It's called a hasty generalization (I am taking AP Lang in school right now). As my counter argument, I state that you cannot generalize an entire country my a small sample.
shawnchi 22 hours ago
@shawnchi You're really throwing that term around - Being uneducated is not the same as being ignorant of a very isolated piece of information. Either English is your second language or you're kind of an idiot.
JoeNietzsche 1 day ago
@shawnchi It is clear that you either do not have any sort of higher education or it is localized to some sort of technical expertise – nothing that would help you here because you have demonstrated some of the most flawed reasoning I’ve seen in a while. Trust me; you are, at this point, only embarrassing yourself in public.
JoeNietzsche 1 day ago
@shawnchi Without a prior qualifier, speaking about any population necessitates generalization. As for religion; the US is not the most religious on the planet but that’s a bit like insisting one isn’t particularly fat because they aren’t the fattest. The US IS the most religious of western nations. On the Rape of Nanking; over time and in the absence of contradiction, yes, propaganda can have the effect of reducing a target population’s capacity for reasoning.
JoeNietzsche 1 day ago
@JoeNietzsche Any well educated person would know that a country cannot be generalized. A Chinese person cannot locate China on a bordered map (Yes, I have met a few). Does that make all Chinese people stupid? No. A Norwegian cannot spot the difference between Chinese and Koreans. Does that make them stupid? No. The Japanese government censors the Japanese massacre of Chinese in WWII. Yes it is propaganda, but that doesn't make Japanese people stupid. Do you not see how stupid generalization is?
shawnchi 1 day ago