CCW: 2.30 What's the deal with The Avengers? Part One

Elliott & Jose talk about the current Avengers team and will the classic team ever return.

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• Bendis
• Avengers
• Luke
• Cage

[PILKK90]

peter parkers intelligence was retconed in one more day/ brand new day

[comicculturewarrior]

Ya' can;t retcon it, he's ALWAYS been a genius. Besides, in the most recent ASM, Slott writes Parker keeping up with Reed Richards. Ya' gotta be brilliant to do that.

Thanks for commenting!

Elliott

[locusmortis]

I don't think Steve Rogers was cloned, if I remember right the super soldier serum attacked his blood like you said so his blood was replaced with a transfusion from the Red Skull that cured him.

Shit I feel like such a f**king fanboy, someone shoot me :P

[comicculturewarrior]

LOL. I'm trying to remember what happened in the whole 'Operation Rebirth' story arc that Mark Waid and Ron Garney did a few years back. I do believe that the Red Skull was involved as you said. I need to go through my long boxes and find that trade.

We're ALL fanboys!!! BE PROUD! ;-)

Elliott

[johnnyhorror92182]

I recently took a look at Marvel's May previews, and saw the description on "Avengers: The Initiative" and it basically said that Osborn is taking the Initiative apart.

[locusmortis]

I'm not saying he is moving. I'm saying he's the type of guy that DC need.

[deemar325]

Nah Tom ain't going to DC, I'll need sun tan before Brevoort goes DC

[locusmortis]

The Marvel universe seems to revolve around Tom Breevort, I think if DC were to lure anyone away from Marvel the best person to take would be him.

He's got his fingers in every pie, almost all the big events of the last 5 years have had him as the comics equivalent of the "show-runner" would be in tv. he makes things run smoothly.

DC editorial dosen't know what the hell its doing half the time.

[deemar325]

Sure your fundamentally right, but Marvel is very skilled appearing to change. While DC has a rough go at making anything cohesive, it's the illusion of change.

Marvel has succesfully navigated 70 plus yrs of story while generally maintaining it's continuity only sliding the timeline when needed, no Crisis for them.

Things reset in comics, but Marvel will stick with a idea and work it for all it's worth.

[deemar325]

I agree editorial at DC is FUBAR, It's not that DC can't make good solid books like you said Manhunter was phenominal, but the marketing and awareness was "Nil" to died a slow death.

One thing I've noticed at Marvel is that they have many creative summits, everyone has a voice from big names like Bendis/Loeb to mainstays like Slott/Pak etc..and it's paying off.

Does DC do that I have no idea, but they need to start taking some editorial/management ques from Marvel

[locusmortis]

Thats a failure with DC editorial though and their publicists/promoters at a lot of levels.

Some of DC's best books have been allowed to die/be killed like Manhunter, Checkmate, Blue Beetle, the Chuck Dixon books. Its seems like theres a lot of political infighting in the DC "bullpen" whereas with marvel Quesada, Breevort, Alonso and the other editors aren't fighting with each other.

on the other hand Marvel is out to screw as much money out of fans with 3.99 books, endless tie-ins etc

[deemar325]

Sure your right, in the end it all comes back to stat quo, but Marvel is pretty good at keeping things cohesive.

This ain't a Marvel v. DC thing for me, but I do give credit when it's due. DC all they really got is Action, Green Lantern & JSA as far as consistently good ongoings while marvel is even able to make 2nd,3rd even 4th tier characters work I mean Rocket Raccon is gangbusters in GOTG? DC can't get the basics together.

Name titles like Aquaman,Titans,flash,Blue Beetle they fail.