PWP013 Lawrence O'Donnell vs. Mitt Romney

From The McLaughlin Group 12/07/2007.

http://www.mclaughlin.com/library/transcript.asp?id=629

http://www.fednet.net/mg/MG120707.mp3

http://www.fednet.net/mg/MG120707.mp4

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[sagondo]

You are wrong about George Romney! If any Mormon were to defy the LDS official position or policy they would absolutely be excommunicated : Sonja Johnson is just on well known example.Having lived in Utah for 40+ years I know exactly how they'd react!

If you stop taking Mitts word as fact and research this you'd know he's lying. Mitt also claimed he marched with MLK, but changed his story when challenged on that statement. Romney is a chicken hawk,supports war but won't send his own 5 sons.

[pudgenet]

"If any Mormon were to defy the LDS official position or policy they would absolutely be excommunicated"

False.  Nice try though.

[pudgenet]

You won't allow me to reply to you in message, so I will reply here:

I don't care what you claim is fact: Romney HAS IN FACT ALREADY done things that would "defy" official LDS policy -- for example, signing a bill that pays for abortions in Massachusetts -- and he hasn't been excommunicated yet.

So we already have proof you are wrong: he defied LDS policy, you said he would "absolutely be excommunicated" for it, and he was not excommunicated for it. So you're wrong.

[pudgenet]

I am not saying people don't get excommunicated. I am saying that there is no tedency whatsoever for the LDS church to excommunicate high-profile politicians for taking popular views, even if those views are against the church's views, despite your claim to the contrary.

[tempelton]

Hi there. I probably wouldn't agree with you on too much politically or theologically (I am a European leftwing type). However, I thought this commentary represented a thoughtful and honest approach to the subject and that, yes indeed, O'Donnell was acting irrationally and without enough consideration for the accuracy of his ire. He can be thoughtful but I think his problem is he is too combatative when in imagined enemy territory. Oh well. :)

[keltontrey]

The problem is that this was not "Doctrine" it was a practice that crept into the church. Which from all accounts was not right. The church although set up and organized according to Gods will is still run by people.

[575391]

One more item for the record, The LDS faith has not nor ever will be racist. Joseph Smith abhorred slavery and fought for the rights of all of God's children.

[575391]

PWP013, WOW, Bravo! Let me preface that I am a black Mormon my mother is a 5th generation Latter Day Saint. I find it absolutely refreshing that educated adults can see past all the static of politics. I am not a Mitt fan totally ( I am Republican), his battle had he not graciously bowed out would have been a continued waste of money and time. It is not Mitt's turn now. It interesting that America can see a woman or a blackman as president but not a Mormon.

[mpalm887]

I've got to say I respect you. Very intelligent analysis, and I think you're views of Romney at this point are bang-on. Well done on this video.

[lttp123]

people got to realize that religion changes by the times. i am 57 years old and every church at that time were racist. i do however remember mormon people making food stands during the marches in michigan. any other church denied me access even the evangelical church at that time but at least mormons treated us like human beings.