Moscow Fair Vote Demonstration Dec 10 - New Russian Quartet supported over 25,000 strong action
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@BloodyRosie lol, since you were careful enough to say the leaders had no access, i'm assuming you're already aware of the many ways the followers could even be proven to have access.
As for the retarded rhetorical device: "Why would the protesters seek access?", are you conceding that even if they stuff the ballot, the protesters would not be able to beat putin? lmao, b/c if you're not, then there's at least one motive for the protesters
As for how, the same way other side has access
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lol it's very hard to argue with the "people" especially when the people that oppose the protesters are not counted as "people", lol talk about authoritarian,apparently the protesters excel at dictatorship better than anyone else
and it's very hard to see how putin has control of the media, b/c the minority protesters seems to be getting ALL the attention in the media, isn't this precisely where the hypocrisy lies?
as for ur poll #s, w/e do you mean independent lol, evidence pls
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@opeeum69 The reason to do that for Putin is to make 49, 50 or 60% out of those 32%. It's something regular under authoritarian/totalitarian regimes that are made to look like there is a democracy. And I will repeat that the leaders of the demonstrations had no access to the ballots. They never do. Why and how would they?
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@opeeum69 51% of russians are for Putin according to the most recent poll. Don't forget that he controls the media, so without the propaganda this would have been different. 32% of russians have voted for United Russia (another independent poll). That's not the majority and it's not the 49% or so, as they say.
People know who falsified the elections. If you look at all the videos on the internet about it and ask those who watched closely, they will tell you it's the people behind the elections.
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@BloodyRosie And at what point, in your useless response, did you disagree with me? i'm assuming you're agreeing that:
1. putin has majority support in russia
2. nobody knows who stuffed the ballot
3. probably the protesters did it themselves since they, and not putin, have the most to gain, b/c without ballot stuffing, the protestors would lose an excuse to riot
3. democracy is not about who disproportionately yells the loudest
tell me which point you disagree with
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putin+tusk-na syberie!!!
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@opeeum69 Also, one of the leaders of the communist Left Front that's never been a part of the State Duma (parliament), Sergei Udaltsov, is now in a bad condition in prison for actively opposing the government. That's what happens to communists who have nothing to do with the elections or mr. Putin and his puppets.
The demonstrations were mainly organized by liberals from a movement called Solidarity. The same Left Front was involved as well, but, again, they had no control over the elections.
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@opeeum69 @opeeum69 How come you're asking me that? Are you being sarcastic? Nothing in my message says that I believe in conspiracy theories. I can only tell you that the actual communist party is against the demonstrations and they still claim that the people out there have been paid by someone from the West. They're not really complaining. That would be dumb of them to make a conspiracy in order to take down those in power only to agree with the Kremlin in the end instead of opposing it.
Impressive performance in the snow without fingerless gloves!
felextc 2 months ago 8
People and Music be heard!
Gobbs27 2 months ago 5