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Uploaded by on Jul 9, 2009

If the audio for this is weird, sorry, I made it quickly. Also, for some reason, the "Y" kept getting cut off at the end, and I just didn't feel like taking the time to figure out why.

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TheAtheistAntidote's (Brock's) video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY-jnzE01oA

Dawkins on morality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XtvWkRRxKQ

Noelplum99's awesome video on morality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee5JRkeoMg0

NYTimes article on chimp morality:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/20/science/20moral.html

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  • At least you're being intellectually honest by giving up true morality, though. Most atheists aren't. But please be willing to accept the consequences.

    With such big brains, if we can recognize that true morality doesn't really exist, we'll be able to reckon a number of, what I would call, very bad things.

    And please, don't be a person who relies on "for the betterment of the species" because with our big brains, we know that that is a pretty meaningless statement at the end of the day.

  • Snarge, I recommend reading up on social contract theory if you haven't already.

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  • Thumbs up if u came here cuz of the fat baby thumb nail

  • I think there is a confusion between "morality" and "ethics". The recognition of any absolute "right and wrong" scale certainly leads down the path to a recognition of an outside source for the distinction. That's the morality scale. However, simply understanding and acting within a sense of "fairness", recognizing harm as a net negative, does not take us down that path and is as natural as understanding the drive for procreation or the reaction of a mother to her baby. It's instinctual.

  • Evil is independent of any gods. We sin against "god"; we do evil against men. Evil is just a word used to describe how shitty we are to each other.

  • Sam Harris' book "The Moral Landscape" is worth a read. He makes the case that science is capable of determining human values by studying the well being of humans and animals. This won't produce an absolute set of rights and wrongs but it will make more sense than justifying or discovering supposed morality by reading an ancient book.

  • @antybu86 Or Kant, or Ayn Rand or Stefan Molyneux or any of the other philosophers who've discussed objective morality.

  • too bad our species HAVE historically mutilated and killed babies - Aztecs, Inca, Babylonians and many early cultures did just that so, unfortunately, your example doesn't work.

  • @antybu86 are you an atheist?

  • @snarge

    1. gods laws arbitrary

    2. appeal to consequence

  • I found a nice lecture series called "Christianity and the problem of Evil" by Dr. Bruce Little. It's on the cross.tv website. Worth a look!

    this is the link: cross.tv/tvshows/1252

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