Carlos Kleiber - Brahms Symphony No.4 (4th mov,)
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@vickiviolini Brahms had a beard. Bach did not. Just kidding. From my point of view Brahms used form as a gardener might, as a superstructure upon which expression was built. Bach in many ways was the opposite, expression in the service of form and counterpoint. But that is most likely oversimplification.
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@kfcohea and in a sonata form to boot, complete with development!
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@vickiviolini To say that one composer is "greater" than another indicates only your own opinion, as no self respecting historian makes such a distinction. It would seem to be the case that Bach would be astonished and fascinated by romantic techniques and their implications, as he was a pioneer in some aspects, but also a traditionalist in others - just like Brahms. It is true, that Bach used 60 or so variations on a four bar phrase, but can you identify the differences between Brahms and Bach?
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@vickiviolini pasacaglia, pues empieza el tema solo.
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@kfcohea Unbelievable indeed!
How refreshing to encounter (especially on this democratic platform in which so many do not understand the difference between personal opinion and objective argument) someone who understands that creating music of such intensity requires superlative intellect.
There are those little things such as technique, imagination, and all that flows from them. And how, in the case of Brahms, historical awareness produces music that is so modern!
As you say -- What a mind!
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GREAT!!!!
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@mHickland007 On s'en christ de Karajan!!!! À soir c'est kleiber!
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What about karajan's versions of Brahms symphonies ???
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@kfcohea haha Bach did more than 60 on a four measure phrase in his Ciaccona. Just sayin'
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Mullet sighting on principal bassoon. Sweet!
bigmandrel 1 year ago 9
What a mind! 30 variations on an 8 measure phrase. Unbelievable!
kfcohea 7 months ago 6