Brief Bible Blunders -- Episode #8

The eighth in a series of quick looks at biblical oddities.

Did Jesus come to judge or not? The Jesus portrayed in the Gospel of John is of two minds.

Credit for bringing this one to my attention goes to the excellent "Conflicting Bible Teaching of the Week" series on TheBEattitudes.com (Link: http://thebeattitude.com/2009/10/06/conflicting-bible-teaching-of-the-week-27/ ) and JezuzFree and AtheistinWA on Twitter (Links: http://twitter.com/JezuzFree http://twitter.com/AtheistinWA ).

By the way, I have no idea why people's comments are just disappearing. I know it's been going on all over YouTube (and it's incredibly annoying).

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[TheFashionbugs]

the context is different. the 3rd (last) quote is about himself being judged.

[ProfMTH]

@TheFashionbugs You need to read it again.

[ChipArgyle]

I can hear it now...Christian apologist says, "Jesus and God are one in the same. God's capricious. Jesus must also have been prone to mood swings and sudden changes of mind. Whatever he says is right anyways, even if he contradicts himself. Come on atheists, is that all you've got?"

[Projectman2u]

Pretext interpretation here... Here is what is being said: Yeshua (Jesus) has not come to judge the world, (at this time). Based on His death on the tree and you're acknowledgement or denial, you will then become a candidate for HIs kingdom or judgement... depending on your choice. So He has not come to judge the world at this time. He came to structure a pathway for your freedom, or through hardheatedness, judgement... it's you're choice.

[viridismonasteriense]

@gregrutz he came to save the world....from himself....and 'we' did not kill him (if he ever even existed) his death was planned from the beginning according to christian dogma by himself, so it was all an elaborate self-harming performance play....because without this blood ritual scapegoating so-called sacrifice (what did he sacrifice?) he couldn't forgive us (all of humanity) for the crimes of an ancestor or for not following barbaric bronze age laws or for not worshipping/praising god enough

[gregrutz]

@fuzzyBSc ''I came to save the world'' >> and so we killed Him. How did that help?

[Anomalous59]

@Thistlesifter220 Yeah, probably not a construction worker though, right?

[halolIlmao0]

Perfect. That is a clear contradiction.

[carlsonap16]

God came into his world not to judge/doom us, but to judge/defeat us. again, you are ignoring basic rules of language. sigh...

[fuzzyBSc]

From the message paraphrase, in more straightforward english:

"God didn't go to all the trouble of sending his Son merely to point an accusing finger, telling the world how bad it was. He came to help..."

"I came into the world to bring everything into the clear light of day, making all the distinctions clear, so that those who have never seen will see, and those who have made a great pretense of seeing will be exposed as blind."

"I didn't come to reject the world; I came to save the world."

[tsunami770]

@ProfMTH They always cite "out of context" as their special pleading to accept the unacceptable in faith. You can show the story of Abraham where a clearly barbaric god orders the death of a child as a test of faith. How sick would any perfect being have to be to create this test, inexcusable even if at the end he did not plan to follow through? Which of us if ordered by god would obey that command? I certainly would not! I am sure I was out of context there too right? of course.... ;)

[Thistlesifter220]

One other thing... the Bible plainly says it's a shame for a man to have long hair (1 Cor 11:14). The Jesus Christ of the Bible wasn't a long haired, limp wristed, liberal-pinko hippy.... He was a wealthy construction worker.