@muermel01 The B206-L3 to B407 comparison is a lot like the A Star B2 to B3. The 407 has more power and a better rotor head and more blades for gross weight work hotter and higher than the Longranger. The 407 is probably a better comparison to the B3 because I'd put the B2 against the Longranger with its 2 blade rotor.
@HunterPilot24 Nothing wrong with personal preferences :-) I responded here in the first place cause of this "French people and machines suck" on page 3. MD 500s are pretty cool machines and there's no real competition for them, agreed. Shame though that the company doesn't get their stuff together. As I said, B2 vs. 407, comes down to preference. B3 vs. 407, as long as you don't need the 407s better speed and better handling, the B3 wins most of the time. Especially long line and "hot&high".
@muermel01 Well as long as you're talking about personal preference, I like MD Helicopters. The MD 500/520 both destroy the competition in the light turbine market. I'd call it a toss up between the 407 and B2. I've never flown a Eurocopter so I can't speak from experience, but I have flown bells and MDs.
@HunterPilot24 You're comparing a a 407 against a 135/145 and a EC 120 and tell me to make fair comparisons? The 120 is an entry level helicopter like the Jet Ranger and the 135/145 are twin engined helicopters so you're not being fair at all. Compare the 407 against a 350 B3 and the B3 will outperform the 407 in terms of payload and flying in hot and high conditions any day. Talked to a B3 pilot (with 407 experience!) a week ago, who confirmed that. Astar B2 and 407 are pretty much on par.
@muermel01 Ok, I didn't even take the time to look for the comment you are responding to, but if you're going to compare, at least be fair about it. The U.S. Armed Forces uses many times more Sikorskys than Eurocopters. Coast guard included. FBI, I'll give you that. EMS is definitely more Bell 407s than anything else here. Maybe not in Europe, but Bell owns the industry here. And by the way, the 407 is build for hot and high, something the EC120, 135/145 struggle with.
@XxIceCavexX .They have been known to drag a ton of the hill
MrRexBivouac 4 months ago
Never knew md500s were so powerful
XxIceCavexX 5 months ago
Man thats a strong little bird to pick that other body up like that.
wretchedmaniam 6 months ago
@muermel01 The B206-L3 to B407 comparison is a lot like the A Star B2 to B3. The 407 has more power and a better rotor head and more blades for gross weight work hotter and higher than the Longranger. The 407 is probably a better comparison to the B3 because I'd put the B2 against the Longranger with its 2 blade rotor.
HunterPilot24 6 months ago
@HunterPilot24 Nothing wrong with personal preferences :-) I responded here in the first place cause of this "French people and machines suck" on page 3. MD 500s are pretty cool machines and there's no real competition for them, agreed. Shame though that the company doesn't get their stuff together. As I said, B2 vs. 407, comes down to preference. B3 vs. 407, as long as you don't need the 407s better speed and better handling, the B3 wins most of the time. Especially long line and "hot&high".
muermel01 6 months ago
@muermel01 Well as long as you're talking about personal preference, I like MD Helicopters. The MD 500/520 both destroy the competition in the light turbine market. I'd call it a toss up between the 407 and B2. I've never flown a Eurocopter so I can't speak from experience, but I have flown bells and MDs.
HunterPilot24 6 months ago
@HunterPilot24 You're comparing a a 407 against a 135/145 and a EC 120 and tell me to make fair comparisons? The 120 is an entry level helicopter like the Jet Ranger and the 135/145 are twin engined helicopters so you're not being fair at all. Compare the 407 against a 350 B3 and the B3 will outperform the 407 in terms of payload and flying in hot and high conditions any day. Talked to a B3 pilot (with 407 experience!) a week ago, who confirmed that. Astar B2 and 407 are pretty much on par.
muermel01 6 months ago
@muermel01 Ok, I didn't even take the time to look for the comment you are responding to, but if you're going to compare, at least be fair about it. The U.S. Armed Forces uses many times more Sikorskys than Eurocopters. Coast guard included. FBI, I'll give you that. EMS is definitely more Bell 407s than anything else here. Maybe not in Europe, but Bell owns the industry here. And by the way, the 407 is build for hot and high, something the EC120, 135/145 struggle with.
HunterPilot24 6 months ago
I want one!!
rfvlz 11 months ago
@cyprixx *D,E, or F
n9233f 1 year ago