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[thevgman]

Vote Sanity. Vote Ron Paul.

[iceteaguy]

@DickLodge68

Like I said, I'm aware that they want us dead. Not just me, us, as in all 300 million Americans. I understand that they will do all that they can to kill us. No matter what we do, there will always be people who want to kill Americans. Period. End of Story.

How to deal with them? I'm not sure, I'm no politician, but I do know that this war seems just like Vietnam. Want to wait 10 more years, or pull out now?

[iceteaguy]

@MrNietzsche1990 Using Hussein against my logic is like complaining that you weren't warned to use common sense.

The policy that I support wouldn't have put him into office to begin with.

[iceteaguy]

@MrNietzsche1990

I don't agree. I see that we've erred, and are currently trying to fix it with the same basic tactics that got us into the mess to begin with.

There comes a point where you fuck up so much that your trying to fix the problem only makes it worse. I believe we've reached that point. Their government doesn't like us, and their people don't like us. They want us to leave. Our troops want to leave. Why are we still there? To defend an idea?

[executableapplet]

@DickLodge68 sounds like you're still deluded, and little have you known the blowback from our initial partnerships with Sadaam Hussein and the Taliban have turned bad simply because we refused to leave their lands. The sole purpose and goal of the Taliban is to keep unwanted guests out of their country. Our welcome is long gone. It should be their proprietary right to refuse our presence on their lands.

[MrNietzsche1990]

@iceteaguy I would also argue that you are tacitly implying that it wasnt worth taking out Hussein because u say u wudnt meddle in their business.

[MrNietzsche1990]

@iceteaguy Well the American government is partly responsible for Iraq as they left Hussein in power after the Gulf War. They even lent him gunships to mow down civilians. It was after this that Hussein attempted to wipe out the Kurds. America has responsiblity for Iraq whether u like it or not and walking away from this moral obligation i would deem and i hope u too as immoral and irresponsible. Dont u agree?

[iceteaguy]

@MrNietzsche1990

I don't think that disproves my point, however, because it suggests that one candle in a sea of darkness somehow justifies the darkness.

I wouldn't try telling a Kurd or Shiite anything. I wouldn't meddle in their business.

I don't believe in absolutes. I wouldn't argue that anti-interventionism would always work, but I absolutely believe that it's better than interventionism, and I do not believe that it is Isolationism.

China practiced Isolationism.

[MrNietzsche1990]

@iceteaguy Im gonna have to agree with DickLodge68 and sum up the interventionist concept. The fact that we might end up doing harm should not be a concluding reason not to do anything for the cause of combating totalitarianism and defending secularism and democracy around the world. This smug, apathetic non-interventionist view is all the more contemptible because it disguises itself in the cloak of morality. E.g. Neville Chamberlain

[DickLodge68]

@executableapplet Come on - stop the bullshit. Everyone know there are wild claims of civilian deaths from 100k to over a million. You really think Americans were just slaughtering civilians indiscriminately? Many of the deaths are from Iraqi's themselves. And yes, liberating a country of 30 million..giving them schools, and women's rights I'd say that is a victory. Do you know any Iraqis? I have a pen pal from Iran and she is begging us to do the same there.