The disease concept of AA and other 12 step groups fails basic logic.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
When we rewrite the riddle it makes even more sense.
Is God willing to prevent alcoholism, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh alcoholism?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
It might be best for 12 steppers to sit this one out. While this is basic logic I am sure this will fly right over their heads.
I have been weaning off this crap for a while and I am now seeing AA/NA as the quack religion made up by Wilson & Smith.
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rexxed33 2 years ago
iz - imho, a close reading of ch. 5 reveals that the real 'disease' is 'self' & only god can rid you of 'self'. once you believe that, you're flat-out f**ked.
bill purposefully made the 'disease' thing a moving target so that he could imply an 'alcoholic' was riddled with it & later claim that he never explicitly said as much.
the stock market of the '20s rose & crashed mightily under the same type of bad faith shenanigans.
as they say, no coincidences.
notspeedy0314 2 years ago