Horses and The Book of Mormon

The following is a partial rebuttal to the anti... (more)
Added: January 12, 2008
The following is a partial rebuttal to the anti-Mormon video Bible vs. The Book of Mormon. Scholars go over evidence and discuss horses found in Pre-Columbian times, chariots, and elephants. This is an abbreviated version of a full-length video which FAIR (www.fairlds.org) will be releasing soon

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[bradleydjennings]

They just found more in Los Angeles.

March 11th 2011

[fairldsorg]

@bradleydjennings More horse bones? Do you have a link?

[rd1999]

am I missing something here? I thought The Book of Mormon was translated into English by the gift and power of God? Are you telling me that God doesn't know what a chariot is or if it was some other type of device that the Lamenite King was riding that God didn't know how to describe it?

[fairldsorg]

@rd1999 As with any translation, words are translated into familiar terms that the reader and translator is aware of. Take for example the word "road" found in The BOM. If it were a piece of equipment that was pulled by a beast of burden, the best and easiest translation would be a chariot. This is not an uncommon practice

[rd1999]

@fairldsorg Ok just for fun lets say that the Nephite word for the thing the Lamenite king was riding in was a "cuttinbux" and lets say in reality it's a travois being pulled by a giant ground sloth. If that's what it was God would have called it that. God knows English well enough to have described it what ever it was. He said it was a chariot, I believe God knows what he's talking about.

[fairldsorg]

@rd1999 But the book isn't for God who knows all, it is for us. Many mortals have a hard enough time reading it without having to take a history class to find out what certain things mean. It is much simpler, easier to understand, and does not change the message of the book at all to call it simply a chariot.

[thaowtx1]

@fairldsorg does that mean we can call spears a sharp stick...and call a swords, flat metal.

[schnucklefutz]

Just remeber also..no matter how much evidence there is confirming (and more will appear) the BoM is true there will always be those that doubt or try to disprove. Thomas didn't believe our saviour had come back until he touched the wounds...just saying :-)

[pantload86]

apologies everywhere, as far as the eye can see.

[TheSkepticChristian]

We do not find Book of Mormon names in Maya inscriptions for two reasons. First, few inscriptions are contemporary with the Book of Mormon. Second, they come from cities that are not considered by Latter-day Saint scholars to have been Nephite

[TheSkepticChristian]

@scotticus80 "Woolly Mammoth Mammuthus primigenius, Northern USA, 2000 BC." (Wikipedia) Check it out.

Also the Gomphotheres became extinct in about A.D. 400. in South America,

"Please note that reference is made to a potential pre-Columbian horse, the so-called "Spencer Lake," horse skull. This has NOW been determined to have been a fraud or hoax"

[scotticus80]

The horse remains of carlsbad were not that of the extinct native American ass. The Carlsbad horse was of Old World stock.

[scotticus80]

The horse remains in Carlsbad dates to between 1625 and 1705. The Spanish started bring horses in 1493. Carlsbad isnt far from the Spanish conquered Mexico. The horse was buried ritualistically along with a burro, both aquired from the spanish.

[scotticus80]

This remains date to the last ice age along with mammoth and bison remains found within the cave, thousands of years before the Mayans or the Jaredites. These apologists are either very flawed in their research techniques or lying sacks of shit.

[scotticus80]

The horse bones found un the Lol Tun caves are actually the remains of the American Ass