"The PLO was on record..." -Norman Finkelstein

Political Program Adopted by PLO in Cairo on June 8, 1974 - http://www.un.int/palestine/PLO/docone.html

"On Protracted War" - http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_0...

"Minimanual of the Urban Guerilla" - http://www.marxists.org/archive/marighella-carlos/1969/06/minimanual-urban-gu...

Some relevant quotes (lots more out there)...

Yasser Arafat on Jordan Television Network (Amman), in Arabic, Sept. 13, 1993:

"Do not forget that our Palestine National Council accepted the decision in 1974. It called for the establishment of a national authority on any part of Palestinian land that is liberated or from which the Israelis withdrew. This is the fruit of your struggle, your sacrifices, and your jihad This is the moment of return, the moment of gaining a foothold on the first liberated Palestinian land Long live Palestine, liberated and Arab."

Faisal Husseini in an interview with Focus, Syrian television, Sept. 9, 1996:

"All Palestinians agree that the just boundaries of Palestine are the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Realistically, whatever can be obtained now should be accepted [in the hope that] subsequent events, perhaps in the next fifteen or twenty years, would present us with an opportunity to realize the just boundaries of Palestine."

Faisal Husseini in an interview publishedin As-Safir (Beirut newspaper), Mar. 21, 2001:

"One must draw a distinction between the strategic aspirations of the Palestinian people, who would not surrender one grain of Palestinian soil, and their political striving, based on the balance of power and the nature of the current international system Our eyes will continue to be focused on the strategic goal—a Palestine from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea—and nothing that we take today can make us forget this supreme truth."

Abu Ala in Al-Ittihad (Baghdad newspaper), June 24, 1996:

"When we accepted the Oslo agreement, we obtained territory but not all the Palestinian territory. We obtained rights, but not all of our rights. We did not and will not relinquish one inch of this territory or the right of any Palestinian to live on it with dignity."

Yasser Arafat in A-Datsur (Jordanian newspaper), Sept. 19, 1995:

"The Oslo II Agreement is a delayed realization of a stage in the PLO's 1974 phased plan."

Yasser Arafat said the following during a closed meeting with Arab diplomats in Stockholm. This was leaked by one person present and reported by Cal Thomas in the Washington Times, also by the Middle East Digest, March 7, 1996:

"Within five years we will have 6 to 7 million Arabs living on the West Bank and in Jerusalem.... We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. Jews will not want to live among Arabs. I have no use for Jews....We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem."

Abdul Aziz Shaheen in Palestinian Authority newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Jan. 4, 1998:

"The Oslo accord was a preface for the Palestinian Authority and the Palestinian Authority will be a preface for the Palestinian state which, in its turn, will be a preface for the liberation of the entire Palestinian land."

Marwan Barghouti in interview with New Yorker, July 2, 2001:

"We may lose or win, but our eyes will continue to aspire to the strategic goal; namely, Palestine from the [Jordan] river to the sea."

Zuhair Mohsen in Dutch newspaper Trouw, March 1977:

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."

For shakeystevensVIII: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1088054.html

For ludwigau: http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2000/20000618.sc6878.doc.html

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[ListenLiberal]

Even Barghouti is too intransigent for you? Of course he desires the dissolution of Israel as we know it. What self-respecting Palestinian wouldn't? Obviously, the two state solution is a ploy for both sides of the conflict -- it is an offer the Israelis cannot accept, and the Palestinians do not desire.

[mbrown0315]

No, there are people on both sides who are serious about the two-state setup. As far as I can tell, Salam Fayyad and other Palestinians with a less revolutionary history are more interested in international investment and other aspects of serious state-building than in carrying on a war of liberation. There's just not enough of them.

[mbrown0315]

Also, I couldn't help but notice that you said "the dissolution of Israel as we know it," as if these people really just want a Middle Eastern Switzerland...just a peaceful bi-national abode where two linguistic communities can live peacefully side by side. This is funny to me, and it gets funnier when people make the claim that this is actually what the Arabs wanted all along. Even if they did want to maintain a Jewish national presence, peaceful bi-nationalism simply won't work at this point.

[ListenLiberal]

The peace is there now? What is "working" now? The peace you envision is a pernicious peace in which the Palestinians essentially give up. That is no peace at all. That is a victory for the bad guys. And it assumes, incorrectly, that the Palestinian bargaining position weakens over time. Our Little Serbia ain't so tough.

[mbrown0315]

The peace I envision is a partition setting the framework for both sides to gradually outgrow their respective nationalisms and irredentism while collaborating in various realms of commercial enterprise, culture, and security. Where does that lead? Probably Belgium, maybe even Switzerland if we're lucky. As I've said before, partition needs to precede real bi-nationalism. That you just write off one side as "the bad guys" makes it nice and clear that this conversation is pointless anyway.

[nilbud]

It's hilarious how you equate the actual genocide being perpetrated on the Palestinians by the jews with the empty statements of those being exterminated. You place no stock in actual events, death tolls or any kind of sanity. You're a laugh.

[oc00011]

@kokogro please do your own research to confirm the following: 13/09/93 yassir arafat on jordanian TV - "since we cannot defeat israel in war, we do this in stages. we take any & every territory that we can for palestine, and establish sovereignty there. and we use it as a springboard to take more. when the time comes, we can get the arab nations to join us for the final blow against israel." said on the very same day he signed the olso peace accords!

that's just 1 example of the complications

[Musicofthissphere]

I hope there is never a 58th Muslim terrorist state. The Arabs do not need yet another state, pushing Israel into Abba Ibin's "Auschwitz lines."

[kokogro]

Your argument is riddled with holes.  The record clearly shows the Arabs have been voting for a 2 state solution honoring the 67 borders. Debunked.

[Pitttdog]

HAHA-finklestein ur a fuckwit.My family fought that war in Lebanon.the PLO was ethnically cleansing Lebanon of Christians.They were firing into Israel & running into Lebanon.Israelis were attempting to stop the external attacks.The Christians who werent involved in the jihad were armed to defend themselves & rid the country of the armed plo.It was mutually beneficial.Murders,rapes,kids being shot.Someone had to stop it.No one did.Lebanese Christians thank the israeli boys for their sacrifice.

[optimistsRUS]

@gingerXLL

My agenda is hate? My agenda is justice, equality, freedom and self-determination for all. Your agenda is apartheid, chosen people / master race, just like Germans thought they were the superior people you believe that Russian Jews have the right to go to another country and demolish the natives' home and kick the residents out. Based on your logic there never was such a nation called "Jews" who had a country called Jewland so that means Jews don't have the right to have a country.

[gingerXLL]

@optimistsRUS

yonatan shapira is same as the other thing and they do it out of need of attention and of course autoantisemitism these things are no different than the nazzis. Such things are not new for the jewish people and we understand they exist. Good for them

[gingerXLL]

@optimistsRUS this is my argument.i dont just discredit it. this thing shouts at jews not to "abuse" the holocaust while it doest it itself. Where he is wrong? 1st there was never such a nation called "palestinians" that is why they cant claim for anything especially no land and no rights.

u and such are far from the truth since u have no idea about history and politology. your agenda is HATE. holocaust survivor who support flotilla sold his number as if it was a taxi.

[Greywind30]

"Israel is a country of Jewish immigrants"

So? Is it bad?

"it was founded by Jewish terrorists"

That's lie. It was not factor. Brits were going to leave anyway. There was nothing for them to hold for

Your numbers are bullshit. Absolute majority of land in this area was gov. land and private property confiscated by arabs from jews is 5x of entire Israel.

[optimistsRUS]

@gingerXLL

Yawn... calling someone a "Self-hating" Jew is not an argument, it means that you have no argument against him and his facts are true and the only thing you can do to discredit him is throw dirt at his motives. Care to highlight where exactly Finkelstein is wrong? Anyone who stands up for truth and doesn't play the bitch of Israeli terrorists is a self-hating Jew? Yonatan Sharpira and 82 year old Holocaust survivor who went on Jewish flotilla to break Gaza siege are also self-hating?