@DiamondDann - What does this quote from United States v. Wong Kim Ark mean to you? " In the forefront both of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution and of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, the fundamental principle of citizenship by birth within the dominion was reaffirmed in the most explicit and comprehensive terms." 2 types of US citizenship. Natural Born and Naturalized. President Obama was born a citizen. He was not made a citizen by statute, ie naturalized. Get it?
Not sure why you think that the 14th Amendment was about the definition of Natural Born Citizen, but your allegation is not supported by law or history. Minor v Happersett on the other hand, is controlling and supports the definition used by the founders which was, "native birth and two citizen parents."
SCOTUS Decision! "The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.....contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization."..."But citizenship by birth is established by the mere fact of birth under the circumstances defined in the Constitution. Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization." US v. Wong Kim Ark
@DiamondDann - You are confused and/or misinformed. E. de Vattel's ideas were rejected by the founding fathers on a number of issues including the right to keep and bear arms and the establishment of a national religion? The founding fathers most certainly did not use "natural born citizen" as defined in de Vattel's "Law of Nations". As used in the US Constitution, "Law of Nations" isn't referring to de Vattel's book but to a centuries old concept, "jus gentium". Educate yourself.
You have posted three comments which seem to me to be irrelevant to the issue. Emerich de Vattels "Law of Nations" in the 1700's was utilized by the Founding Fathers as a reference while they drafted the US Constitution. They utilized the term, Natural Born Citizen as defined in Sec 212 of the Law of Nations. I fail to understand why anyone would quote private attorney opinions from the mid 1800's which are not supported by SCOTUS decisions or the written law.
"And our Constitution, in speaking of natural born citizens, uses no affirmative language to make them such, but only recognizes and reaffirms the universal principle, common to all nations, and as old as political society, that the people born in a country do constitute the nation, and, as individuals, are natural members of the body politic." Edward Bates 1862 Opinion of Attorney General Bates on citizenship
"A natural (or native) born citizen of the United States means a person born within the limits of the American Republic;" Joseph Bartlett Burleigh - 1849 The American manual: containing a brief outline of the origin and ... - Page 28
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges." William Rawle 1825 A View of the Constitution of the United States Page 80
"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States."
God love you birthers, but God dammit you all need to learn to be able to give and take an interview clearly, concisely and on point.
mauibrad 2 months ago
@DiamondDann - What does this quote from United States v. Wong Kim Ark mean to you? " In the forefront both of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution and of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, the fundamental principle of citizenship by birth within the dominion was reaffirmed in the most explicit and comprehensive terms." 2 types of US citizenship. Natural Born and Naturalized. President Obama was born a citizen. He was not made a citizen by statute, ie naturalized. Get it?
USADad 2 months ago
USADad,
Not sure why you think that the 14th Amendment was about the definition of Natural Born Citizen, but your allegation is not supported by law or history. Minor v Happersett on the other hand, is controlling and supports the definition used by the founders which was, "native birth and two citizen parents."
DiamondDann 2 months ago
SCOTUS Decision! "The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.....contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization."..."But citizenship by birth is established by the mere fact of birth under the circumstances defined in the Constitution. Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization." US v. Wong Kim Ark
USADad 2 months ago
@DiamondDann - You are confused and/or misinformed. E. de Vattel's ideas were rejected by the founding fathers on a number of issues including the right to keep and bear arms and the establishment of a national religion? The founding fathers most certainly did not use "natural born citizen" as defined in de Vattel's "Law of Nations". As used in the US Constitution, "Law of Nations" isn't referring to de Vattel's book but to a centuries old concept, "jus gentium". Educate yourself.
USADad 2 months ago
@USADad
You have posted three comments which seem to me to be irrelevant to the issue. Emerich de Vattels "Law of Nations" in the 1700's was utilized by the Founding Fathers as a reference while they drafted the US Constitution. They utilized the term, Natural Born Citizen as defined in Sec 212 of the Law of Nations. I fail to understand why anyone would quote private attorney opinions from the mid 1800's which are not supported by SCOTUS decisions or the written law.
DiamondDann 2 months ago
"And our Constitution, in speaking of natural born citizens, uses no affirmative language to make them such, but only recognizes and reaffirms the universal principle, common to all nations, and as old as political society, that the people born in a country do constitute the nation, and, as individuals, are natural members of the body politic." Edward Bates 1862 Opinion of Attorney General Bates on citizenship
USADad 2 months ago
"A natural (or native) born citizen of the United States means a person born within the limits of the American Republic;" Joseph Bartlett Burleigh - 1849 The American manual: containing a brief outline of the origin and ... - Page 28
USADad 2 months ago
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges." William Rawle 1825 A View of the Constitution of the United States Page 80
USADad 2 months ago
US Constitution, Article II, Section 1
"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States."
USADad 2 months ago