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Uploaded by on Jan 30, 2010

this is just a thought experiment. i have nothing personally invested in this theory, it just struck me as interesting and a topic for dialogue.

please dont get angry and accuse me of promoting eugenics or some bullshit. your unwillingness to talk openly about this might just prove the theory to be true.

what do you think?


Question: Its a cultural thing
Response: there are mental pathways for everything, including culture.
civilization breeds people not to care, not to think too much. it is set up to reward people who go along with what it says. it shuns people who step outside the box.
so maybe a good portion of the people, after 10k years of being bred to not care, after seeking other people who share a similar view, some cant do it so well anymore
because that pathway was selected against
the pathway that makes all this possible
so maybe anyone can be woken up, but in some, where that pathway is so weak after 10000 yrs of non-use, it can be really hard, approaching impossible
i think anyone can be woken up
but for the part of humanity most shunned by civilization, the ability to care, to see outside of youself, is the biggest difference between "us" and "them"
i think its a big enough difference to get me to breed selectively.
and so evolution acts on that pathway

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  • Of course I noticed that too. You're not alone... many people are awakening now! :)

  • Very interesting ideas. But how can we define being "awake"? Who decides who is awake and who is not? "Waking up" seems to be a continual process of realizations, a journey for knowledge and truth. Some people may be at the very beginning of their journey, and may not be able to see the world as you or I do - yet. What is a good starting point? There has to be a good way to start these types of conversations, to ease people into certain ideas.

  • hey mate. i recon being consious is in our genetics as living creatures, that kids wouldn't go unconsious if they didn't encounter the brain bashers, and probably most people would wake up if they have the experiences that show the truth of their situation.

    BUT wild animals were domesticated over generations. Maybe changes have happened to people too.

    I like the sound of the opposite idea best though... that it wasn't possible, genetically, for them to knock all of us unconsious...

  • what causes an awakening is a mystery

    how it is defined is also a mystery

    perhaps folks who think they are awake aren't

    it does seem to me that reaching people is not about reasoning and logic--it's about the heart

    which is why ishmael reaches people, because it is a parable (alchemical)

    some folks are very deeply wounded, very closed down, with lots of protective walls

    it seems some are genetically incapable of waking up, but i'll hold that that is just how it seems, not how it is

  • thanks for that insight, collector

    it explains the phenomenon well

    the risk of admitting that the system is harmful is so great that it threatens the survival of the ego, so the person would 'die' if he or she realized that the system isn't the pajama party it advertises itself to be

    i've often felt that it's a decision that was made early on, to play the game in order to survive...the strong reactions that come with this conversation really show how connected it is to (perceived) survival

  • I come across those people who don't want to see the others perspective and I can sometimes atribute it to social trauma. I'd question what brings you back to those people, are they old friends? highlight why you connected with them in the first place and in time you'll come to understandings Together more easily. the mind can't be forced or it just fragments the ability to connect different ways of thinking.

  • and all the synthetic matierals that affect our genes, some people get storong sensitivities/allergies to these things, and might be considered genetic problems, are actually pretty smart genes if you ask me.. some are emotionally more sensitive, social interation cause countless chemical reactions in the whole body, food, no doubt you would feel emotionally not wanting to be around those ways of living as you know it pollutes you right?

  • ehh, I'd have to say there are maybe genes that affect "how" a person wakes up, like more dependant on types of social interations(cultural ways of nature vs nurture, nurture will always work over "social disfuntion" caused by repressive culture). I think civilization has preyed upon those people and I think as we develope a more inclusive culture, they will help us in ways We Can't Even See right now as people who concider our selves "woken up" around such a material/consumer culture

  • It is an interesting thought, It is possible that some people are just not able to wake up, like rolling your tongue, it's a genetic thing.

    Although something that I did hear about is that some scientists believe that genes can be reprogrammed.

  • In my opinion, everyone has the potential to awaken. I believe we are currently experiencing a mass awakening. When I am in a discussion with someone who isn't receptive to these ideas, I remind myself that Mother Culture has had 10,000 years to lull them to sleep. Some people are just heavier sleepers than others. I think of it as a Bell Curve. (cont.)

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