Preterist-Realism Introduction

Introduction to Preterist-Realism (Part 1). 2 Peter 3 and the Day of the Lord, the Day of Judgment, the Beast and the False Prophet, etc.

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[Bibletouchstone]

@MillennialSaint In my opinion most OT prophecy has been fulfilled by the first century and the end of the age. Yet a huge case can be made that many OT prophecies and types exemplify all the New Testament teachings of the end of history and our Lord’s Second Coming and our Blessed Hope. These things are also extrapolated from the whole OT revelation. There is no doubt that the OT teaches of the Last Judgment and of our Lord’s rule over all nations.

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@MillennialSaint The Resurrection at the Last Day did not happen in AD 70. I do not believe Daniel 12:1-2 directly teaches of the bodily resurrection, but our Lord teaches that is the logical consequence of what Daniel predicted. Yet I do not hold that 1 Corinthians 15:52 is past, but will be realized in time and history in the future.

[Bibletouchstone]

@thekingdomcomedotcom I thought I was clear that this is a distinct study, and that I am not Dr. T's henchman. Please do not slander and gossip here again. Please keep your personal vendettas on your blog and don't drag me or Sharon into this imaginary war, a stumbling-block for weaker brothers and the world.

[thekingdomcomedotcom]

@Bibletouchstone - Vince, though I admire your attempt to move away from hyperpreterism, I am concerned about your association with Talbot. This is a man who will not come out of hiding and put forth his own work against HP. He lets people like you and Sharon Nichols twist in the wind while he sits safely in his ivory tower. Please take some time to reconsider your associations. Especially since you said Pret-Real and Real-Pret are the same. Thanks

[Bibletouchstone]

@Bibletouchstone I have great deference for his work, but the wave of response to HP in dogmatic Christianity is not led by Dr. T, but by the Grace of God. Dr. T has been supportive and influential but as an independent lay Christian, I have my own agenda. I believe that the most compelling arguments of HP can be answered by orthodox fundamentals. I believe God will deliver many HPs.

[Bibletouchstone]

@thekingdomcomedotcom I do not think Dr. T or I are making a "new" eschatology. I am taking on a new study of age old Christian dogmata.

[thekingdomcomedotcom]

p.s. Don't let Chuck Coty whine his way into making you stop calling HYPER-preterism what it is. HYPER simply means to "go beyond" the original intent and scope. HYPER-preterism certainly goes beyond the original intent and scope of historic Preterism. Calling it HYPER-preterism is etymologically correct even if it is not politically correct or offends Chuck Coty's sensibilities.

[thekingdomcomedotcom]

@Bibletouchstone - Thanks for all the replies Vince. So, what you're saying is that you are promoting Ken Talbot's Clarkian (i.e. "Scripturalist/Philosophical") "new" version of Partial-Preterism? Do you have his support in this or are you subsuming his role? I'm not certain why Talbot wants to make a "new" eschatology since that simply concedes the hyperpret point, as if Christianity has failed for 200 yrs to present a cogent, united eschatology. Why not just remain a hyperpret then?

[Bibletouchstone]

@thekingdomcomedotcom My wife has been supportive of my move; she never was a full-preterist. Never pursuaded, perhaps because she is not interested in the systemization of the eschatological frontier. Yet she believes my move was by God’s Grace. I am blessed by this, but I know for some the move is more difficult for some.

[Bibletouchstone]

@Bibletouchstone I am now committing much more effort to an Augustinian view of the Fall, and a Scripturalist epistemology and theology of accountability than exegesis of “eschatological” passages. As the Lord wills, I will get to that too just after some preparatory groundwork is finished. Where this will differ from conventional “Partial-Preterism” is probably on the common interpretation of some Old Testament texts.