Uploaded by usebrains on Feb 13, 2009
Sea Shepherd Paul Watson fires a projectile from his Dutch vessel criminal platform 05-feb-2009.
why is Dutch gouvernment doing nothing?? This is an unforgivable criminal act against the civilian crew of our friendly country Japan.Remove our Dutch tricolore of this animal rights group vessel asap.
Minke whales are increasing by 30.000 animals per year, so 900 lethal reseach per year, will never extict them. SEA SHEPHERD IS JUST NOT TELLING THE TRUTH !!! sea shepherd is not needed in this world no more, the whales are safe and so are the oceans and in the end also our planet.Donators are just deliberately lied to, and do not buy off the guilt thats Sea Shepherd is trying to put on your shoulders. well folkes ..... use your brains !!
ps Paul, get a job ! and thanks 4 what you did in the 70ties and 80ties.
FBI testimony on terrorism. (Feb 12, 2002)
Sea Shephered referred with a fine definition of terrorism by FBI counter terrorism division.
http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress0...
Canadian government arrested Sea Shepherd
http://www2.canada.com/windsorstar/ne...
Sea Shepherd disrupting missing sailor search
(presumably already dead)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/20...
Injured whalers by butyric acid hurled by Sea Shepherd
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/20...
UN FAO report on livestock industry and environment
http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2...
ICPO and Sea Shepherd (See last page)
http://www.suisankai.or.jp/topics_e/i...
Population of Minke whale (Least Concern by IUCN)
http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/2474
Dingo on red list (Vulnerable by IUCN)
http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/41585
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@shatros Sure as hell NOT under this specific circumstance. There's no law or treaty making the Japanese's antarctic whaling activities illegal. And I have some serious doubts that the general principle you're talking about is even true. Have you read that anywhere other than the lay media or Sea Shepherd promotional material?
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@shatros Okay, I'm going to keep the restraint to not call you a liar outright, but the Webster I'm reading defines murder as "the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought", so I'm wondering what copy you have.
As for whales being sentient, therefore people and therefore capable of being murdered, come on. Talk about a stretch. And a serious hole in that logic is that even if some whales are sentient by some definition doesn't necessarily mean that minke are.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@shatros You're close but not quite right. First, the treaty didn't ban commercial whaling altogether, it put a moratorium on it. A ban is meant to be permanent, a moratorium is only temporary. Second, the same treaty allows lethal research whaling, with the requirement that the carcasses not go to waste. The Japanese satisfy that by butchering the whales for food. Sure, it ends up getting sold commercially, but that doesn't invalidate the research or otherwise violate the treaty.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 While I certainly admit that for a civilian to board a vessal, especially to do so unarmed is probably not smart. Legally, to do so is within the rights of anyone under this specific circumstance. Another basic principle of international maritime law is that all individuals have the right and duty to enforce as well as they are able to, all applicable laws and treaties upon the high seas. This includes boarding a ship and arresting a captain who has commited an international crime.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros Also, the United Nations has banned commercial whaling in the waters around Antarctica. This means that virtually all nations have agreed to this ban.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros In addition, the IWC has specifically set asside water around Antarctica as a protected whale sanctuary. This means that not only are IWC nations prohibited from commercial whaling there but all nations are prohibited from all forms of whaling within the sanctuary.
shatros 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 A basic and universally accepted principle of international law is that when two or more countries sign a treaty, that treaty is enforceable by all signatory nations upon all other signatory nations. In 1986 all IWC member nations (Japan, USA and Australia, among others, are members of the IWC) signed a treaty banning all commercial whaling. Since the Japanese whalers are selling the whale meat that defines them as commercial whalers.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros Therefore killing a whale deliberately and with premeditation is consistant with the definition of murder. By the way, my thesaurus includes murder as a synonym for kill and slay. It is therefore completly appropriate to describe the killing of whales as murder.
shatros 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 The verb murder is defined by my Webster's dictionary as "deliberate and premeditated killing." It does not specify "person." However, one of the valid definitions of the noun "person" in my Webster's dictionary is "a sentient being." "Sentient" is further defined as "having the ability to think and reason" Whales have been repeatedly proven time and again to have these abilities.
shatros 1 year ago
@falcon221sprint Stop being a sensationalist dick. SSCS are terrorist fucks and much more likely to be murderers than any whaler.
NRen2k5 1 year ago