Who Are the People of God? II of II

Abdallahs assertion of equality is fiction. After all, nowhere in the Quran is there mentioned a black African prophet, an Asian or European. All Prophets who are named in the Quran, and given Scriptures were Semitic people, and none were women [Q. 3:84].

By the phrase 'dispensational violence' I am pointing out that God would not permanently destroy his people Israel with the rod given to another Covenant People. Something is terribly wrong with the Islamic view. Christians know that the Jews have not been replaced, but that all believers are grafted into the Kingdom by the declared Son of God.

Pagans have been called from time to time as a rod against Israel, but for Muslims to admit to being such a rod would also be an admission to having no genuine covenant.

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[kuw80]

I mentioned in my comments that for you to believe or not is between you and God since he is the one who knows what`s in ur heart. Addressing all the points you threw here and there doesn't falsify the argument and i respect all points of view. So i am here to show what we believe in and my reply as i saw the video.

[LothairOfLorraine]

Your comment here is just a little funny. You are saying that, before you 'address my point' I have to agree with your point of view?

The Quran is mere poetry, and Muhamamd was a false prophet. So long as you see that as my immutable position, we can talk.

[kuw80]

And please if you want someone to address the point at hand stop throwing false claims in between ( Qur`an is mere poetry, Muhammed is a false prophet, Hate and killing of Muslims of non Muslims). so if you avoid that we can stay on one subject as we reply and discuss and we all benefit.

God bless you and may lead all of us to the truth.

[kuw80]

God only knows the main reason to choose men to carry his message to people. but never theless Allah choose men to be his messengers not because he favored them?? this is so naieve since God created men and women and knows who is capable of enduring all the hardwork and abuse awaits the carriers of his message. men are choosin because of their physical form not as to favor them. The same goes for any one picking any person to do a certain job.

[kuw80]

This argument is false for two reasons. First these is no record showing all the messengers and prophets god sent to people and their origens, we Muslims belive the ones we know about are only 25 and there are much more as the Qur`an says. Even Jewish and Christians records are not complete for that matter. Second the Qur`an nor the bible never specified the race or skincolor or a certain tribe of origen for his prophets so there is no valid point of ur claim.

[kuw80]

As far as we Muslims are concerned God only choose Jewish people over the people of their time becaues they are the ones with previous knowlede of God existance and have slight traces of his message. Not because their color or race or family name or whatever. Second every one knows the history of Jewish people with the phrophets even Jesus as far as you are concerned so how come god favor people that kills and defy his messengers and believing in him?.

[LothairOfLorraine]

As a Christian, I wholeheartedly agree with the teaching that those who are 'most noble' are the 'most God fearing'. However,you have NOT address any of the points in the video. While God loves the obedient, He HAS indeed chosen a certain tribe of people to be the light to the gentiles. It isn't Americans, Canadians, Mexican or Arabs. It was the Jews he favored, and by re-establishing Israel in 1948, still favors his first covenant people.

[LothairOfLorraine]

Allah has favored some nations and tribes more than others. For example, where has Allah drawn his Prophets from? Semitic people, correct? That is showing favor to some nations and tribes over others. Also, Allah's Prophets have always been men, so there is favor to men as well. So, it has always been Semitic men who have been favored by Allah. So, Osama's reasoning is a false polemic.

[kuw80]

If you want to know the source of Muslims rage go to Jerusalmem and simply say you are from Philistine and u`ll know for ur self. The prophet him self had a Jewish nabor who wasnt kiond to him, but in return the prophet visits him in his illness. Thats what Islam teaches us my friend and Jews and people from other religions live in Muslim coupntries `till today so where is this killing ur referring to?

God bless you for posting and trying to discuss these issues and may God guide us all,

[kuw80]

3. The last point was regarding Israel and im not obligated to answer that because its discussing what the bible says so i have no info in that area. I want to answer the verse you mentioned about the fighting and killing of non Muslims you just threw in as justification of Muslim's rage. I can do the same with any book i take a verse that says fight non believers or kill them and justify whatever i want. Please Do Not take things out of context.