My Problems with the Union and the Confederacy during the Civil War PART 1

Declaration of Causes
of Seceding States
http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html
Cornerstone Speech
http://pastviews.net/history/slavery.htm
The question of slavery in the West
http://www.nobleednews.com/westward_expansion_and_slavery.htm
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=1485
Conditions of antebellum slavery (Slaves banned from learning to read)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2956.html
Confederate Draft
http://www.wtv-zone.com/civilwar/condraft.html
East Tennessee Civil War
http://www.civilwartraveler.com/WEST/TN/E-Knoxville.html
http://thomaslegioncherokee.tripod.com/easttennessee.html
Lincoln Black Colonization
http://www.lib.niu.edu/1997/ihy970228.html
http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/jala/5/berwanger.html
http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/jala/14.2/vorenberg.html
Lincoln Quotes on Slavery and other Topics
http://www.abfition.com/abraham-lincoln/lincoln-quotes-slavery.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/my/abrahamlincoln/Quotes.html
Letter to Horace Greeley about the Union over Slavery
http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm
Lincoln and the Amendment to Protect Southern Slavery
http://ghostamendment.com/
http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo37.html
Republican Officals Opposing Slavery in the Western Territories

Lincolns Secretary of State William Seward explained: "The motive of those who protested against the extension of slavery had always really been concern for the welfare of the white man, and not an unnatural sympathy for the Negro"

Lyman Trumbull, a U.S. Senator from Illinois and Lincoln confidant, explained "The Republican Party, are the white mans party. We are for the free white man, and for making white labor acceptable and honorable, which it can never be when Negro slave labor is brought into competition with it.When we say that all men are created equalwe do not mean that every man in organized society has the same rights. We dont tolerate that in Illinois."

Tariffs and State Debts as Causes of Southern Secession
http://www.nps.gov/archive/gett/gettKidz/cause.htm
http://en.allexperts.com/e/m/mo/morrill_tariff.htm
New England Secession and the Central Confederacy
http://americanhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_new_england_secession_mov...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Confederacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_New_York
Fort Sumter and Confederate Diplomacy
http://www.jstor.org/stable/2204623

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[surfingthechaos]

I think this is a pretty good unbiased description of the history surrounding the civil war. I do have one question though, and I might have brought this up with you before, but why do you think Lincoln was wrong to want to send the slaves back to their own countries? I mean back then wouldn't most of the slaves have been people who had actually lived in those countries that were taken here against their will? Wouldn't it be right to send them to the place that they considered their home?

[IndividualAutonomy]

@surfingthechaos

Personally I have no problem with it. It is just to show that he did not believe they were equal to whites.

[surfingthechaos]

@IndividualAutonomy Ok, but to be fair that was still the general consensus at the time. There was still a perceived intellectual justification for racism until 1859 when Charles Darwin finally destroyed any and all such lingering notions by publishing his "Origin of Species". And even then it took a while for the rest of the scientific community to catch up to Darwin. Just thought you might want to take that context into account.

[IndividualAutonomy]

@surfingthechaos

Yes it was the general belief at the time. The point was not meant to suggest that Lincoln was behind the times. It is just meant to counter the idea that many have that Lincoln was some pusher for equality among the races and such.

[ZamatoElite]

Nice vid.

Didn't the south massively devalue their currency through inflation? I heard that was one of the biggest crushing blows to the confederacy.

[IndividualAutonomy]

@ZamatoElite

Yes I believe so.  Both the Union and the Confederacy I believe inflated their currency.

[surfingthechaos]

@finalfrontier001 I'm Macedonian actually, and my great grandfather chose to come to this country.

[finalfrontier001]

@surfingthechaos

will you come back to england beacuse you are not from america it belongs to the red indians so come bnback home to your country ....plz dont tell me your irish :S

[ke4bss]

Good vid, here is the cause of the CW. Secession! What caused Secession? A growing disatisfaction with Federal Govt and fear that the Fed. Govt would impose its power over the State regardless of the effect on a state. That same disatisfaction u mention existed in Northern states also. U mention War of 1812, there was also the Wiskey Rebellion, Shays Rebellion, and NH, VT and CT considered leaving when TX was admitted. There were more problems other than Slavery alone.

[Dabba23]

I have some questions about this, but honestly I don't feel like typing it out here. Maybe I'll get on skype later and we can talk about it.

[Dabba23]

Look at what a nice boy you used to be. And now you're just a RACIST!

[Gettinghitonattheban]

Wasn't Lincoln a white supremacist?

[washingtonboy09]

The Union are the side I support. No side was perfect, and Union people AND Confederate people had slaves. The confederacy supported slavery weather neo-confederates tell me they didnt or not. Did all confederates support slavery? No, some fought for their states loyalty. I am from Oregon, a Union state. But OVERALL the confederacy did support confederacy, its troops support or not.

[imneatneatneat]

@devourage That he did, Lincoln did alot of underhanded semi legal shit during the war no doubt about that. Grant did what had to be done in order to finish a war that had already cost countless lives. Would you have rather put McClellan back at the front of the line? Oh yeah that would've payed off REALLY well -rolls eyes-. Monstrous maybe. But effective? Without a doubt. Also you talk about economic problems but the post war period saw one of the biggest economic booms in American history.

[imneatneatneat]

@devourage Slavery is ownership of one human being by another human being thats all it is, its got nothing to do with forced this or conspircted that. Theres plenty of systems from feudalism to indentured servants to debtors prisons, none of these being just or fair systems of bondage, but its not slavery you hysterical dozy fucker.