Expelled Debunk - Flunked 2of16

Expelled makes some outrageous claims. But what really happened to the people they claim were persecuted for their views? And what is the real story about evolution and Intelligent Design?
In practically every scene, Expelled insults the science of evolution and the scientists who study it, accepting the long-ago-debunked criticisms and conspiracy theories of the intelligent design proponents as valid. On the contrary, evolution is well accepted in the scientific community, where it is considered the organizing principle of biology and central as well to the field of geology. The notion that scientists have formed an atheistic cabal to keep intelligent design from its day in the sun is ludicrous.




Intelligent design has not produced any research to suppress. When prominent ID proponent Michael Behe was asked about his research, and why "you don't do those tests?" he responded, "I myself would prefer to spend time in what I would consider to be more fruitful endeavors." If even proponents of ID do not think it is a fruitful enterprise, why should the scientific community take any interest in it?




Intelligent design is scientifically unproductive, and this perhaps explains why scientists like Guillermo Gonzalez and Michael Behe publish far fewer papers after they become attracted to intelligent design. Ultimately, intelligent design's lack of success in science departments is the fault of the flawed and unscientific nature of intelligent design itself, not the result of bias in the scientific community.
The issue is not the suppression of ID, but the lack of warrant for its scientific claims. And ultimately, ID has an uphill struggle to demonstrate that it is, indeed, science. The fundamental problem with intelligent design as science is that intelligent design claims cannot be tested. Scientific testing requires that there be some set of phenomena which are incompatible with your idea. No observation could possibly be incompatible with a claim that an "intelligent agent" (whom everyone recognizes as God) acted to, say, introduce information into a system. Untestable claims are not scientific claims. Regardless of their attractiveness as religious ideas (although many people of faith strongly reject intelligent design) intelligent design has not passed muster as science.

Flunked - Expelled Debunked by PrometheusWithLight

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[thoughtcriminal21]

@tediju hmmmm, at time of writing there is 542 likes vs 146 dislikes. That makes it almost 80% in favour...does that qualify as "many dislikes"? Also, at what point did he give any indication that he was "campaigning" for anything? This is a well thought out examination/review of Expelled put up for educational purposes without the intention of making profit.

Guess what your argument is...yup, it's invalid bitch.

[tediju]

buddy looks like the campaign is not working. 14 K views and quite many dislikes.

[brpierce]

@rkyeun

Ah, yes, that would be in their seminal evolutionary biology textbook, "Satanic Atheistic Communist Nazi Atheists Think That Your Grandmother Was A Rock And So It's Okay To Kill Everyone!"

[rkyeun]

@brpierce

> Name one school that uses Piltdown Man as evidence for evolution.

Patriot Bible University? :D

[brpierce]

@icsvortex665

...so you admit you were wrong to claim that they use it as evidence. Thank you. Now: can you list for me three current textbooks which cite Haeckel's drawings as proof of evolution? (No citing textbooks which include the drawings but point out that they were incorrect, which is what most of the textbooks Creationists list do!)

[icsvortex665]

@brpierce fortunatly they pulled it out. but we still have stupid shit like vestigial organs haekel's drawings, archaeopteryx and other.

[brpierce]

@icsvortex665

"yet this stuff is still used as evidence for evolution."

Name one school that uses Piltdown Man as evidence for evolution. Name one school that has used Piltdown Man as evidence for evolution in the last half-century.

Please.

[TCupUK]

You are speaking about something that can not be proved. If it is as you say then why can we still not recreate life or prove evolution in the laboratory.

The fundamental point you are overlooking is how these things knew what to become. They do not appear to make millions of attempts in the hope they get it right, they know prior to materialisation what they are going to become. This information that dictates form shows intelligence and understanding of geometry and engineering principles.