Doe eens normaal man! (Get real man!) MP Wilders to Dutch PM 22.09.2011

Member of Dutch Parliament Geert Wilders said to Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte "Doe eens normaal man" (Get real, man!) on Thursday 22nd September 2011. Dutch parliament got intensed on several topics: Euro crisis due to Greece credit crisis, budget cuts, immigration and integration and anti-Islamic wind in Europe. When Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte asked for explanation from his coalition party leader Geert Wilders on his party members comment 'Islamic monkey' refering to Turkish Prime Minister, Geert Wilders said to Dutch prime minister "Doe eens normaal man" (Get real, man!). The back and forth argument showed how street language has become a common place in the Dutch parliament. Dutch people are disappointed about current trend of language use in the parliament. Some argue that it is a sign of democratisation while some people argues that it is the corruption of morality in the society.

Dutch Government (a coalition) needs support from other political parties to pass bills and budget plans. Coalition members get irritated with government for taking distance from coalition and seeking help from opposition political parties. The dialogue between Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte (VVD political party) and his Coalition Partner Mr. Geert Wilders (PVV political party) got clashed on Thursday (22 Sep 2011) after PM Rutte had complained Mr. Wilders that his party member Mr. Raymond de Roon has called Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan "an Islamic monkey". Rutte in the most vivid terms condemned and took distance from that statement, but Wilders denied that Wilders had said so.

The Wilders-Rutte Dialgue:

0:00 Rutte: I would like take this opportunity to name another issue Mrs President (speaker) happened sometimes back. During a debate a statement made by PVV member Raymond Roond has named Turkish Prime Minister a "Islamic monkey". I would like to know if it is correct and if it is so I would like to take most distance from such terms. But if it is mistakenly quoted I would like to hear it.
0:23 President: Mr Wilder...
0:25 Wilders: Yes, president, Prime minister just made a statement that I didn want to respond because I havnt seen. Now he reacts on what he indeed hasnt seen. 0:36 It was Pechtold who said a 'Islamic monkey', 0:37 it was my colleague who said: "there comes the Muslim monkey out of the bag"
0:43 Pechtold: and his name is
0:44 Wilders: and he was called Indeed... but that was a metaphor.
0:45 Rutte: But that's still true
0:46 Wilders: but that was a metaphor.
0:46 Rutte: 'Ah!
0:48 Wilders: what ah? Get real, man!' what ach?
0:50 Rutte: Get real, man? Get yourself real, man. Boy,boy!
0:55 Wilders : president...
0:56 Wilders: Read before you say something!
0:58 Rutte: I would say do yourself normal. Mr. Wilders.
1:01 Wilders: Get real, man!
1:02 Rutte: You can not talk about the prime minister of Turkey as a Muslim monkey. That's an idiotic statement!
1:08 Wilders: he hasnt said that, Get real, man! an be quiet man!
1:10 president: no, no, no Mr Wilders...
1:12 Rutte: I am completely calm. But this is really absurd!

The consequence to PVV party aftermath of his comment to the Dutch prime minister has lost his party popularity.

CONSEQUENCES: PVV loses popularity aftermath 'do eens normaal man'. Fourteen (14) percent of PVV supporters think Wilders's actions were inappropriate and 20 percent felt bad about what he said agaisnt Rutte "hey, do once normal, man" . Due to his commet PVV probably lose two seats in the parliament, according statistics. Panel Dog poll held this week on Thursday and Friday in 3000 more people who come from more than 40,000 people who have ever logged on his panel. From all respondents, 70 percent found the debate in the House unworthy. PVV'ers VVD and sat there with the least, with PvdA and D66 is the most rejections. Inappropriate 73 percent of respondents thought the overall appearance of Wilders in two days debate inappropriate. 61 percent found Wilders' act very normal, 62 percent felt that Rutte did not say it, but again had to react differently. This poll is now on the Freedom Party 26 seats, two more than now in the House of Representatives. The VVD will remain the same this week and stands at 32 seats, one more than in the Chamber. The CDA won a seat and stands on 15, six less than in the Chamber. The seat gains took the Christian Democrats after the collision between Wilders and Rutte. House Minority (The coalition of VVD, CDA and PVV) stands on a House minority of 73seats, against 76 in reality.

source: http://nos.nl/l/tcm:5-1061377/
warning from speaker http://nos.nl/l/tcm:5-1061382/
Related links:
1. PVV verliest twee zetels na 'doe eens normaal' http://www.depers.nl/binnenland/598472/PVV-verliest-twee-zetels.html
2. Wilders tegen Rutte: doe eens normaal man http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2011/09/22/wilders-tegen-rutte-doe-eens-normaal-man/

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[TurkisHdeluXe2oo7]

i've never heard such a fucking language before.. ps: its called greece, not greekland

[insignificus]

@TurkisHdeluXe2oo7 No, it's not.

[NoEalamInSL]

@insignificus, thanks mate! 

[WhoStoleMyAlias]

@TurkisHdeluXe2oo7

If you'd just looked this up on wikipedia, you could have found that the way the Dutch write this is "Griekenland". Since you're trying to be an ass: the actual name for the country is Ellada, but you should probably stick to the accepted alternative name Hellas.

[NoEalamInSL]

@WhoStoleMyAlias, cool!

[NoEalamInSL]

@TurkisHdeluXe2oo7, its Nederlandish!

[HMClagi]

English is not too good? Daarom Wilders Fan? Ik vond dit wel een mooi moment. Die gast doet gewoon, zoals het hoort. Goeie uitspraak, die inderdaad vriend en familie kan doen ontvlammen. Het is niet een hoger geplaatst zooitje mensen, of zo. Kom op zeg. Ja, ze hebben dossier kennis, ja, ze werken hard die paar weekjes per jaar, maar ze zijn nog steeds mensen gekozen door u en ik. Volksvertegenwoordigers. Geen behoefte aan snob-gedoe. Doe 'ns normaal man. Respect

[PainkillerX17]

Doe es normaal man, hilarisch :D too bad these idiots are the leaders of a country.. bunch of kids (:

[torbenvdv]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[insignificus]

@WhoStoleMyAlias You are completely right and the English-language example of idiom you used explains it really well!

[WhoStoleMyAlias]

I disagree. A closer representation of the statement would be "get a grip on yourself".

Also worth mentioning is that this outburst was the result of a deliberate miscitation. Mr van Roon placed the word "Islamic" in front of a Dutch idiom that literally translates as "monkey out of the sleeve". Although the exact meaning is not the same ("to show one's true self"), the English equivalent would be to pull a rabbit out of the hat. Does that make Erdogan an islamic rabbit? Get a grip...

[insignificus]

@ustura2011

I support your right to voice your opinion. Do you support my right to voice my opinion and do you extend that right to mr. Wilders? Without resorting to harrassment, violence, or killing? Then it would appear we're all fine.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

- George Orwell