Lionel 2025 & Polar Express

The Post War Lionel 2025 is controlled conventionally with a CW-80, while the Polar Express has been modified with ElectricRR's Cruise Commander and Sound Commander 2 for TMCC operation with a CW-80. The inner and outer main lines are isolated from each other, but the TMCC signal is everywhere via the common ground. Because I can park a TMCC engine in neutral on the line, I can still throttle control the 2025 on the same line which I demonstrate twice in the video. Thanks to ElectricRR, the PE has very slow operation, sound, as well as cruise control, but in the video I was adjusting speed with the TMCC remote to "catch up" or fall back with the 2025 which doesn't.

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Entertainment

Tags:

• Lionel
• MTH
• trains
• railroad
• 3-rail
• O-gauge
• ogauge
• O gauge
• O-Scale
• 2025
• Polar Express
• TMCC
• 12X6
• ElectricRR
• CW-80
• layout
• train layout
• train
• NAOGRRC
• postwar

[Maxmellow94]

tell me how you got that sound and whistle and how much did it cost

[pjmilazzo]

@Maxmellow94 The Polar Express has a sound commander 2 board installed in it from ERR along with TMCC. I believe that the SC2 is no longer in production tough. It's not as good as railsounds, but not as bad as trainsounds. At the time, sound commander 2 boards cost $50. The 2025 has a normal trainsounds tender which costs about $100. A railsounds board would cost about $100 from lionel.

[VanCleff007]

thanks pjmilazzo, do you say that you have the 2025 control with CW-80 and the PE with the PMCC, everyone is force to do that or you can control both train individually with two CW-80

[pjmilazzo]

@VanCleff007 You can run both conventionally off the CW-80.  One transformer controls the inner loop and the other the outer loop. Where the two loops interconnect , you isolate them from each other at the center rail. The O72 turnouts give you a special track to unplug the center rail jumper to do this and those are the turnouts I use to interconnect the two loops..

[VanCleff007]

do you have about 10 or 12 remoted switches in the layout how do you installed those switches and what accessories i need to completed such task.

[pjmilazzo]

@VanCleff007 I'm using 13 remote switches 4 O72 and the rest O36. I'm powering them with track power, but you can optionally power them with another transformer or the accessory side of one of the transformers. There's no tricks to install the turnouts. Just buy them, remove from the box and place them on your layout. In some cases you might opt to reverse the side of the switch lantern, other than that, it's plug and play.

[Maxmellow94]

@pjmilazzo ohh dang it oh well thanks for the info by the way I find your sounds more better then lionel's trainsounds tender.

[Maxmellow94]

I have the trainsounds tender and it doesn't do all of that noise that good how would I know if the sounds are realistic?

[pjmilazzo]

@msdemocrat3rd

No. Each main lines has one or two pairs of wires for the center rail and the common outside rails. The inner loop is isolated from from the out loop at the center rail, but both loops are electrically connected to each other through a outer rails which are common. Both transformers also must be in phase since O gauge runs on AC, not DC.

[msdemocrat3rd]

Hi, did you have to wire the tracks with a bus line like in HO?