Quote: Carl Jung.. I know God exists

Quote: Carl Jung.. I know God exists

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[Surrealist6]

Actually he said he knew.He didn't say what he knew. The grin on his face looks like he knows what I know (there is no God)

[AcceleratorPlus]

@Surrealist6 but he did say what he knew..

“A young female student accused Jung of being an atheist. Jung was confused and asked the student where she had gotten that idea. The student paraphrased a quote she had read in which Jung said he didn't believe God existed. Jung smiled and said "Dear girl, rest easy, “When we have a relationship to a particular thing or experience with it - belief/faith ceases to be a factor. "

[AcceleratorPlus]

@Surrealist6 He continues....

The truth is this, I have had the experience of being gripped by something that is stronger than myself, something that people call God. So, I will never say that I believe that God exists. I must say I know God exists!"

Carl Jung - The Undiscovered Self

[Surrealist6]

@AcceleratorPlus Touche! You know more about Karl Jung than I thought I knew! Interesting he would be like that but then he always was a bit "metaphysical" and all that. I have read logical things he wrote about personality type and wrongly assumed he would be more logical about supreme beings.

[AcceleratorPlus]

@Surrealist6 Everyone makes wrong assumptions so.. not to worry.. you are not alone in this respect.

Nevertheless.. I’m curious.. What did he say about “supreme beings”.. that you assume was illogical.. ?

A quote from his collective works would do..

Don’t forget to take into account that Jung was an admirer of Nietzsche..

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"Every church is a stone on the grave of a god-man: it does not want him to rise up again under any circumstances.”

Nietzsche

[Chesedrosen]

@AcceleratorPlus Nietzshe was a pretentious miserable little man. lol

[MrXephyr]

A silly thing to say. Did he forget he is a mere mortal?

[hollumber]

@mancsakacarl You cannot explain it? You "feel" there is something bigger? Feelings have a very low batting average when it comes to distinguishing b.t fact and fiction. I'm not saying it's wrong, but I'm saying that it's not the only option available. Many of us (including me) hope that there is something more, but I do not say there *must* be something more because I *want* there to be. We can't let this get in the way of what we claim is knowledge. Until it is proven, we shouldn't teach it.

[mancsakacarl]

@hollumber which basically make's me wonder how, and make's me wonder that all is not what it seem's we are electrical energy being's when the spark leaves we die but do we? i dont think energy can ever dissipate only change or move on , even the body that is left behind will eventually become atoms floating round space.

[mancsakacarl]

@hollumber because its in my being to believe there is something that i cant explain , just as i cant explain why i feel like there is(a creator). what i find amazing is that you can break down matter to nothing yet we are here observing and feeling nothing theoretically ,everything is the same made of energy connected with light yet everything is different.. when you make a wall of brick and mortar it is always brick and mortar , yet reality doesn't work like that.

[hollumber]

@mancsakacarl I don't think you're putting a good effort in trying to understand what i am *actually* saying. What I said was, you must be open to all possibilities, and look at the evidence, and see which ones are *still* possibilities, and which ones are *most likely*. Again, you say you *doubt* this "chance" thing, but why? What is the reason? Honestly, I don't know what to believe, and I hold the position "idk." How come I do not take a stance, but you do? Why must you take a stance?

[mancsakacarl]

@hollumber so everything is by chance?? is that what you are saying?? i doubt that , very very much.

[hollumber]

@mancsakacarl Nature does not have to be "chaotic," and it can be demonstrated (and has been) that simple rules give rise to complex patterns. "Nothing can hold....is stupidity" Why is it stupid? Now, I am not saying I *believe* it, but I am saying it's a possibility. And to not give it a chance as a possibility is like trying to find the best way to run the world, without including democracy and anarchy. "even newton..." So what? If he only believes it, but doesn't have evidence, doesnt matter.

[mancsakacarl]

@hollumber they are not chaotic in nature or design nothing can hold together or form without will and to believe so is stupidity , even newton concluded there was a god.

[hollumber]

@mancsakacarl You are confusing two diff kinds of "laws." Laws of nature are just what we call the *properties* of nature...they don't "need dictating...via a will." Why would you laugh at life being a coincidence? If you laugh at it, it means you never thought it a possibility, which means you are not giving all possibilities a fair chance, and whatever conclusion you may come up with is invalid :/