Mitt Romney gave a speech on 12/06/07 at the George H.W. Bush Library in Texas about his faith and the faith of others in America. This is an excerpt of that speech.
@Pvjinflight That kind of reasoning or logic is not grounded in truth. Now maybe a Muslim may believe that, I don't know, but there is such a thing as personal responsibility and being responsible, that's Biblical. Jumping off a bridge or intentional trying to cause harm is not grounded in Biblical principles. The quran and the Bible are not compatible with one another, so no cross reference can be associated in the context that you are applying it. .
@anarchycave I never said any such thing. I think you should re-read what I previously wrote. I don't understand how you could come to that conclusion.
You say that it is impossible for Ron Paul to win, because Paul's presidency is not part of God's greater plan. In addition, you chastise others for not understanding God's providence or the reasons for His decisions. Don't you think it's a bit arrogant to believe that you know how God is going to carry out his greater plan? Even if we assume the premise that God controls every aspect of our lives, there is no way that we, limited and mortal beings, can predict an omniscient God.
@ub30f Thats exactly the way that some people in muslim countries think, and then they disregard safety in for example aviation and driving as they think that its god who causes accidents and that they cant prevent them by for example driving carefully.
Now you why not go and jump from a high bridge? You will survive if god has planned so.
@Pvjinflight Ah yes, now you are starting to realize the truth, that everything is planned. So take rest and comfort that no matter what you do or say, what will happen, will happen - Now go live your live and don't worry about what tomorrow will bring because you have no power over it's outcome. AMEN! BTW, God does give a crap, that's why we are not in charge.
@ub30f Or another possibility is that god exists but he does not give a shit about world politics and lets everything to run.
Only big fools really believe that everything is planned by god. With that logic you should not question anything as in the end god has planned how everything will go.
@Pvjinflight So there is your dilemma. If God does exist, then as you so eloquently stated, He fulfilled a plan that only He understands, and you are too naive to understand. If he does not exists, as you may believe, then you just can't comprehend why Bush was allowed to scramble your world. Either way, your really confused and your "criminal" as you put it, had eight good years to really piss you off. Too bad for you.
@503zzach Ron Paul can't win. You may not like God but that is just too bad for you. God places in power who He see fit to fulfill His purpose. So in a sense all elections are "fixed". Though you might like to know that - and if you don't, then too bad, because that's just the way it is, whether you like it or not.
@Pvjinflight That kind of reasoning or logic is not grounded in truth. Now maybe a Muslim may believe that, I don't know, but there is such a thing as personal responsibility and being responsible, that's Biblical. Jumping off a bridge or intentional trying to cause harm is not grounded in Biblical principles. The quran and the Bible are not compatible with one another, so no cross reference can be associated in the context that you are applying it. .
ub30f 1 week ago
@anarchycave I never said any such thing. I think you should re-read what I previously wrote. I don't understand how you could come to that conclusion.
ub30f 1 week ago
@ub30f
You say that it is impossible for Ron Paul to win, because Paul's presidency is not part of God's greater plan. In addition, you chastise others for not understanding God's providence or the reasons for His decisions. Don't you think it's a bit arrogant to believe that you know how God is going to carry out his greater plan? Even if we assume the premise that God controls every aspect of our lives, there is no way that we, limited and mortal beings, can predict an omniscient God.
anarchycave 1 week ago
@ub30f Thats exactly the way that some people in muslim countries think, and then they disregard safety in for example aviation and driving as they think that its god who causes accidents and that they cant prevent them by for example driving carefully.
Now you why not go and jump from a high bridge? You will survive if god has planned so.
Pvjinflight 1 week ago
@Pvjinflight Ah yes, now you are starting to realize the truth, that everything is planned. So take rest and comfort that no matter what you do or say, what will happen, will happen - Now go live your live and don't worry about what tomorrow will bring because you have no power over it's outcome. AMEN! BTW, God does give a crap, that's why we are not in charge.
ub30f 1 week ago
@ub30f Or another possibility is that god exists but he does not give a shit about world politics and lets everything to run.
Only big fools really believe that everything is planned by god. With that logic you should not question anything as in the end god has planned how everything will go.
Pvjinflight 1 week ago
@Pvjinflight So there is your dilemma. If God does exist, then as you so eloquently stated, He fulfilled a plan that only He understands, and you are too naive to understand. If he does not exists, as you may believe, then you just can't comprehend why Bush was allowed to scramble your world. Either way, your really confused and your "criminal" as you put it, had eight good years to really piss you off. Too bad for you.
ub30f 1 week ago
@ub30f Nope, god has nothing to do with politics.
If George Bush did fullfill gods purposes then I say fuck you god. Fucking big war criminal piece of shit.
Pvjinflight 1 week ago
What an IDIOT !
ray180597 2 weeks ago
@503zzach Ron Paul can't win. You may not like God but that is just too bad for you. God places in power who He see fit to fulfill His purpose. So in a sense all elections are "fixed". Though you might like to know that - and if you don't, then too bad, because that's just the way it is, whether you like it or not.
ub30f 2 weeks ago