Haraway's "Cyborg Manifesto"
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I think that there is an easy mistranslation that can be made reading 'Cyborg Manifesto'.
The cyborg is not a teleological singularity. It is a way to examine human interaction with technology not as tools but as actors that shape our lives.
Harraway is being extremely playful, interested in 'fruitful couplings' - the twist on Marx is a jest more than a revisitation.
And that is the problem with post-humanism, adherents will consider themselves a vanguard - 'a next step'. To what?
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I think humans are fundamentally flawed and cannot live comfortably in the world without falsifying it. Once we embrace posthumanity, ideas like cyborgs seem more plausible. I used your idea to interpret Haraway, except I made a video using clips from "Ghost in the Shell".
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@WilliamBaus well as technology increases and as we start to merge with machines, we start to spread throughout the cosmos, making us more stable. (even with more destructive weapons)
And people act and behave in destructive ways mostly due to defects, a poor upbringing, and being around and when people believe in things that isn't true.
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Haraway explorations refer to the "actual situation of women in their integration/exploitation into a world system of prodcution/reproduction and communication, calles the informatics of domination. The home, workplace, market, public arena, the body itself - all can be dispersed and interfaced in nearly infinite, polymorphous ways, with large consequences for women and others..." (page 163).
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this is another push for their borg races of cloned robots who are better slaves than the current set .. they are already creating synthetics & clones in their underground bases.. These artifiical 'people' will be programmed to do anything they want, they will be devoid of emotion.. they will no longer have to use mind control to create assassins, monarchs, green stars, presidents etc.. they will just create all these programs from the lab...
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ISIS!
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nuggy. Its so interesting. Cos before you know it, conversations like these are going to be mainstreamed with the arrival of the Bicentennial man. lol. where would they fit in... its wierd
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It's hard to interpret these concepts. You were brave! Thanks for sharing.
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Prepare to assume.....
CORTEX COMMAND!!!!!!!!!
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Great....its so difficult to grasp you know we dont really have a concept of all this - so its difficult to accept as it is difficult to love an intersex person we have to know what is s-he? a man a woman what as what can i love you what shall i be but as soon you start this question- you already have crossed the border... good- bad do - do not value- de value man - machine
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this is isis, isn't it?
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to rich02468: (hyper-)reality check, dude: the Internet is already an extension of your body. you don't need the posthumanists having to have to explain it to ya, just brush off old MacLuan's books.



What do you think of the idea that as technology increases our ability to initiate destructive force increases, eventually to the point where it becomes a relative certainty that any race that attains this pinnacle of technological innovation will destroy itself?
WilliamBaus 5 years ago
I guess my answer would be that I hope that isn't the case. I think the power of Haraway's work is her insistence that we incorporate traditionally feminized modes of thought into our traditionally masculinized understanding of technology. I think the ways of thinking that privilege life over miltary power have been feminized, and in order to keep ourselves from self-annihilation, we need to stop separating technology from 'feminine' thought.
iconoclashing 5 years ago 2