@munkyusm As far as crappy schools and rich good schools. My observation is it has little to do with the school and more to do with Parenting. Good Parents easily overcome crappy schools, and bad parenting can't overcome the mere fact that a kid goes ot a good school. The same poor people are not poor forever, if you look at Social Mobility 50% of poor people move up the social class. Social Mobility in America is very dynamic. And if not this generation, you set up success for the next.
@munkyusm Never said rich people were rich because they were genetically superior. What I said was "every aspect of a person's situation is based on both Nature and Nurture." Is Michael Jordans son inclined to be better than I am at basketball because of athletic inheritance (nature) and tutelage by his father (nurture) and having a higher Basketball IQ than me, probably.
@munkyusm Never said "everyone has the same Opportunities", I said "you can only insure that everyone has the same Opportunities". Big difference. The hard work is in the "insuring" of equal Opportunity without infringing on the freedoms and opportunites of others. The difficulty is in obtaining that balance.
@jfan2000jfan How can you assert that "everyone has the same Opportunities"? We simply don't. Poor children in the ghetto go to crappy schools and end up being poor for the most part. Rich people go to good schools and end up being rich. I can't even believe you brought genetics into this? It's disgusting to think that way - To think that rich people are rich because they're genetically superior. Eugenics is social darwinism.
@munkyusm These college kids do inherit their GPA from their parents. Every aspects of a person's situation is based on both Nature and Nurture, inherited genes and aspects of the environment. Nobody starts out in life at the same starting line, life is unfair, you can't compensate for it. You can only insure that everyone has the same Opportunies, but nobody is guaranteed the same Outcome.
Money and GPA are not alike in any way other than the idea that you work to attain them. If these college kids inherited their GPA from their parents, it would make a little sense, but even then it's retarded. In real life, everyone doesn't start out with a million dollars and then we let performance show how much they make over time. In reality, the poorest start with a "0.0 gpa" and the richest start with a "4.0 gpa"...just think about that.
@munkyusm As far as crappy schools and rich good schools. My observation is it has little to do with the school and more to do with Parenting. Good Parents easily overcome crappy schools, and bad parenting can't overcome the mere fact that a kid goes ot a good school. The same poor people are not poor forever, if you look at Social Mobility 50% of poor people move up the social class. Social Mobility in America is very dynamic. And if not this generation, you set up success for the next.
jfan2000jfan 5 months ago
@munkyusm Never said rich people were rich because they were genetically superior. What I said was "every aspect of a person's situation is based on both Nature and Nurture." Is Michael Jordans son inclined to be better than I am at basketball because of athletic inheritance (nature) and tutelage by his father (nurture) and having a higher Basketball IQ than me, probably.
jfan2000jfan 5 months ago
@munkyusm Never said "everyone has the same Opportunities", I said "you can only insure that everyone has the same Opportunities". Big difference. The hard work is in the "insuring" of equal Opportunity without infringing on the freedoms and opportunites of others. The difficulty is in obtaining that balance.
jfan2000jfan 5 months ago
@jfan2000jfan How can you assert that "everyone has the same Opportunities"? We simply don't. Poor children in the ghetto go to crappy schools and end up being poor for the most part. Rich people go to good schools and end up being rich. I can't even believe you brought genetics into this? It's disgusting to think that way - To think that rich people are rich because they're genetically superior. Eugenics is social darwinism.
munkyusm 7 months ago
@munkyusm These college kids do inherit their GPA from their parents. Every aspects of a person's situation is based on both Nature and Nurture, inherited genes and aspects of the environment. Nobody starts out in life at the same starting line, life is unfair, you can't compensate for it. You can only insure that everyone has the same Opportunies, but nobody is guaranteed the same Outcome.
jfan2000jfan 7 months ago
Money and GPA are not alike in any way other than the idea that you work to attain them. If these college kids inherited their GPA from their parents, it would make a little sense, but even then it's retarded. In real life, everyone doesn't start out with a million dollars and then we let performance show how much they make over time. In reality, the poorest start with a "0.0 gpa" and the richest start with a "4.0 gpa"...just think about that.
munkyusm 9 months ago