Homicide: Zen & the Art of Murder

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Uploaded by on Oct 4, 2008

Bayliss is forced to shoot a suspect in self-defense. Clips taken from "Zen and the Art of Murder" season 7, episode 17.

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  • A great show, but not realistic. A suspect draws a bead on a cop, there's no conservation.

    Please post more Homicide!

  • It's not that the scene is unrealistic (not at all). It shows how deeply Bayliss is involved in his whole new way of thinking (Buddhism). This is one character's reaction to a suspect drawing a gun. One character's reaction to an event doesn't mean that he represents all other characters'. If he had fired before the suspect shot off a bullet, it still would definitely have been a clean shooting. But Bayliss is so reluctant to see that it was indeed clean because of his views...

  • If I agree with you, will you post more Homicide clips?

  • Lol. I was just giving my opinion ;-) Feel free to disagree, but that's how I saw the scene.

  • I think Bayliss's cop instincts would trump his dabbling in Buddhism. And don't get me started on the perp's actions.

    But the key thing I want you to take away from this exchange is this: Please post more clips! Thank-you.

  • You have a good point, and this concept is pretty neat to think about--what can be more influential to a man's actions: his religious views and thoughts that every human being is "sacred" or his instincts as both a cop and as a person wanting to survive? It's not exactly about what's realistic or not, but an internal conflict. I agree with you that Bayliss should have shot as soon as the gun was pulled on him though.

    And of course I'll post more clips, the show is great.

  • Oh, and you could also say the same thing for Pembleton during the season 6 finale. The criminal was pointing his gun at him, and he still couldn't fire because he could never take a human life. But yeah, I won't go any further than that :)

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  • I think the only liberty they took in these scenes was Bayliss following the perp into an abandoned rowhouse without calling for backup - although this could be a part of his character arc as his focus (and moral compass) begins to drift without Frank there to keep him grounded.  IMO that's another star turn there from Meldrick at the end - the character was woefully underused (and occasionally misused) in Season 7.

  • @easilyjaded2 "the show is great"? AMEN!

  • It's easy to watch Homice: LOTS on YouTube, but it really belongs in your DVD collection. Look for it on Ebay: I bought Seasons 1-5 for about $30 each, but by the time I got to Season 6, the price had dropped to $19. Trust me--it's well worth the price!

  • Yep. And I'll grant you that Bayliss and Pembleton are way more thoughtful than typical cops.

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