LESLIE ROBERTSON AND STEVEN JONES DEBATE PT1

LESLIE ROBERTSON CHIEF ENGINEER OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER TWIN TOWERS DEBATES STEVEN JONES ABOUT THE COLLAPSE OF THE TWIN TOWERS.

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[punxsutawneybarney]

@Alaskaslim Over 1650 architects and engineers support me in calling for new investigations of the destruction of the three skyscrapers at Ground Zero.

[punxsutawneybarney]

@Alaskaslim That's what YOU'd expect, but it would be contrary to the 2d law of thermodynamics. No matter how long you cook steel in an oven, it will never get hotter than the oven.

NIST cut off their analysis at the moment of collapse initiation, and thus was able to dodge the seven essential mysteries of the collapses.

[Alaskaslim]

@punxsutawneybarney

"The presence of molten steel contradicts the 2d law of thermodynamics."

No, after several months of sitting there and burning, that's exactly what you'd expect, the NIST, the ASCE, and several other trade organizations have stated as such.

What either don't seem to know or get, is that 9/11 is now one of the most highly studied cases in the Architectural/civil engineering industry. No one just "ignored it".

And yet, none support you.

[punxsutawneybarney]

@Alaskaslim You're wrong. In 2002 Mr. Robertson said he was in the rubble pile and he pulled up a piece of concrete and underneath was "like a little river of molten steel". You wouldn't expect to know 100% what went on, but you would expect the laws of physics to be validated. The presence of molten steel contradicts the 2d law of thermodynamics. But there is was.

[Alaskaslim]

@punxsutawneybarney

There was no molten steel, he knows that this wasn't steel, it was Aluminum, from other parts of the building, and the plane.

That's what he's referring to.

Other comments? This was before the reports came out, and all the details known, they were SPECULATING, ever hear of that? Why the hell would you expect someone to know 100% what went on in the building at just a glance?

That's idiotic. Surprisingly, even in your video, many STILL got it right.

[joecoool100]

@Oz1976 Fact the SOP or Standing Operating Procedure is to NOT shoot down anyone...the pilot then radios back to his higher ups and asks for permission to fire..Why would someone ask for permission to NOT shoot. BTW figher pilots never even got close enough to fire missles...what was the permission to shoot at?

[punxsutawneybarney]

Toward the end of this debate Leslie Robertson makes a "molten steel? What molten steel?" claim about the molten steel found at Ground Zero. Recently a video surfaced of a talk Robertson gave in 2002 where he claimed he saw "like a little river of molten steel". See my video:

The 9/11 "Deep Mystery" and the Crazy Engineers

[Oz1976]

@99Eternal And you FAIL to comprehend that testimony. FACT: ONly the president could give the shoot down order. FACT: At the time of the conversation Norman Minetta overheard that order HAD NOT been given. FACT: Does the order still stand? Means, THERE WAS NO SHOOT DOWN ORDER, it had not yet been given so the C-130 tailing Flight 77 could NOT attempt to take out the plane. The shootdown order wasn't officially given till after 10am.

911myths.com/index.php/Norman_­Mineta

[99Eternal]

@Oz1976 "you cherry pick quotes and take them OUT OF CONTEXT and fail to comprehend them"

I linked you the ENTIRE testimony. How is it possible to take something out of context when that something IS the ENTIRE context?

I think you need to look up the definition of comprehend, and context. You clearly do not comprehend the entire context of his testimony, nor the implications of a stand or shoot down order being given before the plane was 50miles out.

Incompetent shill.