Star Trek Logic

A video to ask the question, why are we an illogical species in a logic universe?

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[junicorn]

Did I hear you say that other animals use reason?

I thought reason was something that was only recently introduced in evolution...after emotion. I was under the impression that we have only just recently developed this idea of reason, and we're still trying to work it out.

[picassolama]

Did I say that? I'll need to rewatch the video. I think what I was attempting to communicate was animals behave for a predictable reason...food, water, shelter, procreation, and security. Humans are the ones, perhaps using reason, behave in unpredictable, and illogical ways. Yes, we do things for the five basic needs, but we also do things outside the relm of survivabilty.

[junicorn]

Person12man is my friend...I accidentally posted on his account. So that was me just then.

[picassolama]

All behavioral science is based on observation, even among humans. You can purport to say what humans are feeling based on their actions, but you can't tell what animals are doing based on their actions? Strange. Animals are predictable, humans are not. We are illogical in our actions, where animals are not. Yes, animals based their actions on need, not emotion.

[UltraSWG]

You really think animals are logical? Have you ever owned a cat or dog? What logical purpose does a dog have to play fetch? Have you ever observed apes? They have the same emotions we do. Emotions bear a very real evolutionary advantage for all social animals.

[turtle4llama]

You link emotion is illogical but it is not. Emotions such as fear, love and anger, are what form cohesive social links and understand what is dangerous and could lower our species number.

[MirageScience]

The logical part of the brain does not make decisions in the human brain.

That is our problem.

Yes Evolution did produce an illogical mind in that logic does not make decisions.

[gordonisnext]

humans have not grown out of the animal kingdom, we are still animals, and we will never stop evolving until we disappear, those emotions are the result of stimulus responses, they are the result of instincts, which, though inconvenient at times, can, have, and will save your life, humans can embrace logic, but must, to a certain degree, suppress emotions, though not as extremely as spock or other vulcans

[narsil1984]

Well, we arent the only species that acts in an illogical fashion. My dog, for example, often acts on emotions. She is pleased by a toy, playing with it serves no purpose like the games of wild animals does. And if you wanna argue that her drive to play is a result of the former very useful "training" actions by young wild animals, same applies to humans.

We evolved large brains, with it came more complex emotions.

[Jaggling]

Perhaps it is through adapting to a changing environment that illogical processes were introduced.

Perhaps it is that at one point those who had an irrational reaction at one point were the ones to survive, while those who responded only with logic did not live. So that those who were not logical passed on their genes, knowledge and beliefs.

[egadslarads]

The existence of God is the essence of logic. Yes religion is perhaps often illogical. 'We know we know the truth' or 'We know that we know nothing' they all seam to chatter blankly. It takes as much faith to be religious or an athiest. What takes less faith is to touch (mind meld style) dirt, flesh, and a door and say 'Yes, I concure something exists'. Who made the door? Who caused the flesh to come to pass? Who made the dirt? How can one be logical in a seamingly chaotic system?

[SadSailor]

It would seem that you answered your own question at the end of the video. The emotions that we are endowed with in conjuction with our logic empower us to perpetuate the evolutionary process that has propelled humans beyond the masses of unintelligent animal species.

[Daitakei]

we are unique we do things unassasrely like going to the moon, exploring planets, in our solar sythem almost like its our nature to expand maby nature turned us into parasits we destroy one plabet :earth then we move to the next. so this unrational thinking is in our nature because where natural parcites

[theayar]

I don't know why everyone seems to be beating up on this version of logic. If you apply the same logic used here as to how we treat war situations or crime you could easily see how seeking to help the perpetrator could actually lead to a fairy tale conclusion.

There's nothing wrong with fantasy. Fantasy is an action of the imagination. If we start to imagine solutions, we will find answers. Much of our current technology came from this show.

[UltraSWG]

"First why does the speaker assume that having emotions is opposite to being logical?"

Because he is using the STAR TREK version of logic? Did you not read the title of this video?

[tamagochita]

looking at my commment.. I made many spelling mistakes:S