Climate Change - Bob Carters 5 Tests of Co2 part 2

Professor Bob Carter Continues examinig if CO2 is the cause of AGW
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[alignwithtruth]

Bob, you're a hero for standing up and explaining the truth. I have great admiration for you, and others like you, eg: Christopher Monckton, Roy Spencer, Richard Lindzen, Craig Idso, David Evans, etc

[Zil2112]

Not to mention that the atmosphere of Mars is 95% CO2 yet the planet's surface temp is -100 degrees. It should be boiling hot!!

[MaluronLurette]

@Zil2112 " the atmosphere of Mars is 95% CO2 yet the planet's surface temp is -100 degrees. It should be boiling hot!!"--

No. The atmosphere of the Mars only has 0.6 % of the barometric pressure of the earth's atm., and the total amount of CO2 in the Mars amosphere is not much more than on earth. Secondly, Mars is much far away from the sun than the earth.

Thanks for exposing your ignorance regarding the use of percentages and the understanding of climate processes.

[MaluronLurette]

@HarrynJessie [...] Look, this is not new knowledge. That's what climate scientists predicted already in 1990, what the paper of Lorius et al., "The ice-core record: Climate sensitivity [...]" demonstrates. Like other "skeptics", Carter manipulates the conclusion "CO2 lags temperature when it's not trigger but amplifier of a warming", changing it to "CO2 ALWAYS lags temperature (= hence it's not responsible for GW)". Either because he's ignorant, or because he is deliberately lying.

[MaluronLurette]

@HarrynJessie "all he was doing was demonstrating that temperature increases precede CO2 increases. "--

And this demonstration is nonsense, it's merely propaganda that's leaving out important facts. CO2 lags temperature only whenit's not the trigger of a warming. The warming after the Ice Age was triggered by changes of the earth orbit, not by CO2. CO2 acted as an amplifier, that's why it lags temperature, according to the ice core data [...]

[HarrynJessie]

@MaluronLurette all he was doing was demonstrating that temperature increases precede CO2 increases. Not the other way round as the zeit geist would have us believe. If his conclusion was wrong, you must explain why CO2 increases do in fact precede temperature increases and provide evidence to support. You have done none of these things with this particular comment.

[MaluronLurette]

@aus2045 "Tell us something we are missing then?"--

Please clarify what you mean, or to what you refer.

I've referred to Bob Carter's particular tests in the previous comments.

[aus2045]

@MaluronLurette Tell us something we are missing then?

[MaluronLurette]

Sorry Bob - that was a pretty poor attempt. All you prove with your five tests is your obvious ignorance regarding global warming and climate change.

[MaluronLurette]

-> "Test 5" (Satellites show no warming in the troposphere): Actually, satellite data do show warming in the Tropsphere when a cooling bias from the Stratosphere is removed. The measurements match model results apart from in the tropics, due to data errors.

[MaluronLurette]

-> "Test 4" (CO2 lags temperature): Just as mentioned in the previous comment - Bob proves once more his lack of understanding how climate works, since he doesn't know (or intentionally ignores) the fact that CO2 is not the only driver of the climate.

The warming after the last Ice Age was caused by a change of the Earth's orbit (->Milankovitch cycles), not by CO2.

[MaluronLurette]

-> "Test 3" (correlation temperature / CO2): What Bob obviously doesn't understand is, that CO2 is not the only driver of the climate. It's a similar lack of basic knowledge like in the common argument that "CO2 (ALWAYS) lags temperature". The post-war era until ~1980 also faced a strong increase of anthropogenic sulfate aerosols which have a cooling effect.

Further, it's ridiculous to say that there is no correlation. Even the curves Bob uses here are clearly showing a strong correlation.