Irreducible complexity cut down to size

Explaining how complexity can evolve. I refute bogus criticism of this video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As1HlmYeh7Q
***YouTuber Underlings has produced an extremely helpful list of videos discussing evolution, creationism, atheism and theism. See his video introduction at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX45gTu5UpQ.
Article on the origin of bacterial flagella:
http://pages.uoregon.edu/pphil/courses/genarch/pallen_natrevmicro2006.pdf
Transcript of Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial:
http://www.aclupa.org/legal/legaldocket/intelligentdesigncase/dovertrialtrans...

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Education

Tags:

• evolution
• irreducible complexity
• intelligent design
• pseudoscience
• eye
• Bombardier beetle
• bacterial flagellum

[EricZombie]

Actually, I'm pretty sure the Pagans were superstitious nature worshipers. People who worship Jehovah in all his post Judaic forms, are superstitious ghost in the sky who controls nature worshipers. I just worship an all powerful napkin god, bless his holy name. By the way, did you know your God had a wife in the OT? Her name was Asherah, but she was edited out later. Isn't it funny how your holy text has been edited over the years?

[mattiassollerman]

My girlfriend is irreducibly complex it seems.

[marksp]

You are trying to find excuses to make reality match what you believe.

Affecting and Producing are the same thing. Every letter you change in effect you have a new sequence.

The current DNA code of an individual is a patchwork of functioning and non functioning genes. We for example can find virus sequences that have been injected in our DNA millions of years ago and remained inert.A lot of the code serves no purpose. It is just a living fossil from our ancestors.

[JeffreyHelix]

And how do you know this process PRODUCED the genomes of today, and didn't just affect them?

[JeffreyHelix]

I'm not a theologian or into theology, so dysteleology is not something I have much input for.

Could you paraphrase those other questions? Are you asking about whether each flagellum was produced individually or are you saying we need a mechanistic account in order to make a design inference?

If the latter is the case (which that last sentence suggests), then that same standard invalidates much of what we already hold true in science (e.g. quantum theory).

[demondays7]

i haven't just glanced at it, i was a pretty big catholic when i was younger, i've read the whole thing, multiple times, under several disciplines, my knowledge of the Bible is not in any respects limited

[rossini55]

If your alternative to Millers account of the Bact Flag is that a god made it, I would like to know how that happens. Is there an explanation that conforms with reality. ie does god/intelligent designer sit on a throne in the sky, with a box of Bact Flag heads and tails, twisting the tails in one at a time? Design implies raw materials subsequent manufacture and assembly. ID seems to avoid any explanations relating to any manufacturing process.

[1GodHelpUs1]

Sounds like he's arguing our what ifs with his own.

[TheFaithGuardian]

i have read the Holy Bible many times. and i can tell you that there is more substance to it than what you limited atheists understand at a first glance.

[demondays7]

that is just god, its all in the Bible, you should read it

[sergeantkozi]

No. No it's not. He commands rape victims to marry their rapers, treats women like property, claims homosexuals to be evil for an act that harms no one, orders 2 bears to maul several kids for being kids, and floods the entire earth, killing babies, kids, senior citizens, and every other innocent. The new testament doesn't cancel out the old testament, and I can show you the passages of scripture to prove it. Even Jesus committed some hateful/immoral acts alongside all the good ones.

[sergeantkozi]

Nuh uh! Because, like, God was telling people how to edit it. You know, like how he talks to the Pope and stuff? All those people who voted by hand at the Council of Nicaea. God was working through them! Even though that would defeat the purpose of having a vote... and disagreements.

Hmmm... I'm thinking my faith is kind of hard to defend. I wonder why that is.