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Bill Labov talks about the shift in Standard from a RP (Received Pronunciation) influenced r-less pronunciation to a r-full (i.e. rhotic) pronunciation.

The rhotic pronunciation of Philadelphia probably influenced the rest of the United States. Now the rhotic pronunciation is standard in US English although there is still r-less speech in the South and New England (Boston, New York). The r-less speech of New England is due to the longer/stronger influence of the British RP standard speech.

An additional feature that changed was the flapping of "t" between two vowels. RP does not flap "t" while US English does. FDR does not flap "t" in the word "shatter" showing the older RP influenced pattern.

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At this stage, what interests me most is the whole idea of what passes for correct or incorrect in American English. Even before America declared its independence from Britian here in Philadelphia, the two Englishes had been going their own ways. George Bernard Shaw once joked that the two nations were separated by the same language. Bill Labov is the director of the Atlas of North American English.

RM: What do you consider Standard American?

BL: Well, most linguists recognize that there is a broadcast standard pronunciation which is not fixed but which converges towards a pattern that is not local. And that's changed over time.

RM: We drew originally from where?

BL: From England. There was something called International English that was really modelled upon British Received Pronunciation and took its form in London at the beginning of the 19th century. Americans were not all influenced by it. Only the big Tory cities: Boston, New York, Savannah, Charleston, Richmond. They adopted that r-less pronunciation whereby you say [ka:] not [kar] "car" and "store" [stor] which shifts to [sto:].
And that's still the pattern in England today. For me, the model of that international English standard was always FDR. He was a New Yorker who had the prestige pattern of the upper class in New York, and it was really r-less. It sounded like this:

FDR: "To those who would not admit the possibility of the approaching storm, the past two weeks have meant the shattering of many illusions. With this rude awakening has come fear, fear bordering on panic. I do not share these fears."

BL: So you notice that every time the letter R comes up unless a vowel follows its gonna sound like this: "The approaching storm".

RM: Stom.

BL: Not "storm" [storm] but [sto:m] and: "I do not share these fears". But he — it's more than just the R. You notice the way he say "shattering", and "utter good faith". So the pronunciation of "t" as "t" in those situations still found in Boston was again modelled on the British pattern. And it held right up to the end of World War 2. And then, to our great astonishment, it flipped. So, right after WW2 people growing up in New York City and in many other cities behaved in just the opposite way. When they were careful, they pronounced their "r"s. And when they were not careful, just speaking casually, they stayed with their r-less dialect.

RM: So people wanted to sound more English before World War II and less so after World War II.

BL: We hear British people use that pattern, and we love it. But it's not right for an American.

Labov believes Philadelphia shaped American speech more than any other city because it was the only east coast city originally to pronounced its "r"s. And that "r" sound that so typifies American English, migrated west.

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From "Do you speak American?" documentary.

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  • Can this documentary be found in full on DVD?

    I found this segment quite interesting. :)

  • i need more. please let me know where i can get the whole interview

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  • weres the black ops and mw3 gameplay dude

  • The army grew during the Napoleonic Wars and saw mixing all across the UK, hence start of the 19th c. in the video, but not necessarily anything to do with RP. There was an influx of Dutch and German aristo's in the UK from the 1680's to the 1830's affecting the accent heavily, also a mixing in the elite private schools during the 19th c. where RP thrived.

    2 Questions. Should US TV push more UK-origin programming? Will we end up with a transatlantic accent spoken by all English speakers?

  • I think local and standardised accents are bring confused here. Local accents in the US are blends from the early settlers and pioneers, plus particular immigrant groups in places. They have also moved towards the standard particularly since WWII. US RP is of course influenced greatly by the development of British RP but also from middle class especially New England and the tidewater areas. Local British English was affected by the education system, the army, industrialisation.

  • @ijsmale I know one, Tony Randall from '7 Faces of Dr Loa'. The man say the words as it is spell. That plus his voice. Beautiful :)

  • One can still hear non-rhotic pronunciation among native Charlestonians, Savannans. Their speech is the higher-end version of the Tidewater accent, native to area roughly equating with Chesapeake Bay and considerably more southerly than that. Bostonians (though not western Massachusetts) is non-rhotic in pronunciation.

    The Transatlantic accent was considered the "standard" American English until after WW2. Audrey Hepburn was half-British and educated in RP English, not Transatlantic.

  • @HouseofBurgessesLR

    I blame much of the decline of American English on the removal of phonics instruction from the classroom, in favor of the dumbed-down "Sight Word" system. That's why Americans of the past you see in these films have these beautiful, articulate voices you don't hear anymore; they knew how to enunciate, they understood how their language broke down phonetically. Now, trashy stupid MTV SoCal English is the new standard of today's young people, it's so sad.

  • @NewYorkFlavour Nah, and remember Carter was from a very poor area and grew up as a peanut farmer. Reba Macintire is also an example of a very unpleasant southern accent.

  • I love British English also pronunciation!!

  • Those who point out the classic film era are correct. The actors of that period were taught to speak in the non-rhotic, Mid-Atlantic style. One can also hear it in songs and broadcast announcer voices from the period. It's a fast-disappearing feature (sadly to me). Even on the coast of Georgia where I travel a lot, the younger generation sound like their contemporaries across the country. We're becoming homogenized.

  • @MowgliX ...than helpful. So, why not somehow try to come up with some kind of compromise? The differences in spelling are ludicrous! I mean "organisation" or "organization"? Who the bleep cares? Even Queen Elizabeth spelled (spelt?) her name with a Z, not an S some 400 years ago, and she was certainly English! So, some committee should say: "OK, lets solve the delicate problem of spelling. Shouldn't be too hard."

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