Olbermann Special Comment: Proposition 8

11/10/08 - Keith Olbermann delivers an emotional Special Comment on the outcome of California's voting of Prop 8 which eliminated the right of same-sex couples to marry.

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[bikaren1980]

Mr. Olbermann speaks Plain Truth about this subject. There is no more reason to deny marriage rights to the GLBT population in this nation than there is to deny these same rights to interfaith and/or interracial couples.

Those who spew homophobia here are simply BIGOTS. They're no different than the average Klansman - the hatred directed against homosexuality vs race. The homophobes are just Klansmen with gay hatred instead of race hatred. They're a stain on this nation's reputation.

[varfunc]

One of the best speeches on rights equality I've ever heard.

[bikaren1980]

@jsgoodfella

Legislating that a gay couple in love who want to marry may not do so is bigotry EXACTLY like the laws which forbade marriage to an interracial couple in love who wanted to marry back before those laws were struck down as unconstitutional - because those laws violated the civil rights of the couples in question.

Recognition of gay marriage confers upon the partners the LEGAL RIGHTS to things like health care, etc. that they would otherwise be denied.

[jsgoodfella]

@bikaren1980 @bikaren1980 The question here is whether people who believe that the state has no interest in regulating and issuing marriage licenses for gay couples are bigots because they expressed their preferences through voting.

Simply voting against STATE recognition (NOT A RIGHT) of such associations does not entail bigotry. Many Conservative Christians, at least the ones I know (I am not a Christian), did not care what homosexual couples were doing before Prop 8.

[bikaren1980]

@jsgoodfella

Your statement that "many religious people believe that homosexuality represents a broken way of life" shows that their opinions are based on their religious beliefs, not on what this nations stands for. Equality, equal rights, and freedom transcend all religious beliefs and are secular ideas - not religious ideas. When a religion teaches that homosexuality is wrong, it is teaching bigotry. Accusations of bigotry in these cases is not only appropriate, but correct.

[miaomiaochan]

It's a shame that this video has so many dislikes. Clearly, some people are not going to let reason and truth get in the way of their hatred.

[SagaciousNJ]

@jsgoodfella 1 - One who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

1 - One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

It need not be meant as an emotional appeal; by any lucid definition of the word "bigot", those who vote against gay issues and especially marriage qualify as bigots. This of course puts them in exceedingly bad company, but that unfortunate fact does not change the truth.

[jsgoodfella]

@bikaren1980 I don't believe religion should have a place in lawmaking either. I personally believe that the government has no interest in recognizing and regulating the institution of marriage (both hetero/ homosexual).

However, many religious people believe that homosexuality represents a broken way of life and consequently as voters these people naturally refuse to put their stamp of approval on gay marriage. Accusations of bigotry are tiring and silly.

[RockinAlpacaLord]

@bikaren1980 They are both the same concept of marrying who you want. It's legal to marry your first cousin in many states, which is wrong. You should either take down that law or let the gays marry. Also, many gay people are afraid of commitment, and use the no gay marriage thing as an excuse. Most don't even truely want to marry.

[bikaren1980]

@jsgoodfella

It doesn't take psychoanalysis to recognize bigotry, hatred, fear of the "other", and homophobia. Religion does NOT have a place in this nation's lawmaking process any more than the government has a place in making rules for religious organizations. Those who want their bible to rule this country should stop and consider if they want the government in their religion.

[bikaren1980]

@RockinAlpacaLord

You're equating 2 things that aren't related at all. Gay marriage is NOT inbreeding. Why do you want to marry your sister, Alpaca? There are scientific (Yes, Science - that scary stuff.) reasons to prohibit inbreeding.

Olbermann is sticking up for an oppressed minority. If you think that makes him hateful, then you're not very bright.

Finally, I'll vote down ANY comment which is nasty, bigoted, and/or stupid - including yours when they qualify. This one doesn't qualify.

[RockinAlpacaLord]

@bikaren1980 I have no problem with the gays, but if they get the right, then why can't people marry direct family members? If you liberals are as peaceful and unbiased, then you won't vote down my comment. Also, how can people deny that he is such a hateful person?

P.s I know that Fox is biased, but so is MSNBC. Every station is.