Traditional Tae Kwon Do (Ohdowkan) - Kwang Gae

Traditional Tae Kwon Do black belt form, Kwang Gae, performed by 1st Dan black belt Mathew Joki and 2nd Dan black belt Jese Valette. Filmed at Lloydminster Tae Kwon Do Club under instructor Hai Ma.

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[Valosken]

Is it me, or does this resemble karate A LOT? xD

[MathewJoki]

@Valosken Tae Kwon Do was strongly influenced by Karate during the Japanese occupation of Korea, when the practioning of traditional Korean martial arts such as Tang Soo Do were outlawed.

[Gemmatkd]

Both your attempts to get some kind of reaction from me have been wasted I'm afraid @MathewJoki.

I am happy with the way my patterns look and feel no need to post anymore vids of myself. May I suggest that if you don't want peoples opinion; don't post your vids! Or at least disable the comments button.

[MathewJoki]

@Gemmatkd Oh, but I enjoy calling out the keyboard warriors far too much to turn off comments! :P I'm glad that you're happy with your patterns and you don't care what other people think about them that you don't want to take the time put them online. I just figured you should know that if you're going to be making comments on others' videos you do end up falling into a pool of people look like they have no idea what they're talking about. No offense, just my humble opinion.

[RolandStGermain]

With the proliferation of Taekwon-do, it is inevitable that independent schools would open up with different takes on the Hyung. I think it is good to see differences between schools.

[MathewJoki]

@TKDoX Gen. Choi's original TKD did not have sign wave, and he did not begin to implement it until the late 70s-80s. What is now commonly understood as TKD has been changed from its original format, a large motivation behind that being nationalization to make TKD look dissimilar to Karate, the martial art of the Japanese who oppressed Korean people for many years. And I will kindly say that I don't wish to argue or debate that, as I've had to defend the fact many times already.

[Valosken]

@MathewJoki

Interesting. :D Thanks.

[MathewJoki]

@RolandStGermain Thanks for the support in the argument. Some zealots can't get it through their heads that the art has evolved in many different ways over the past 40-50 years, and even that there is not one sole governing body of "ITF" which is the "correct form" of which all others at imitating. As you and I have stated previously, there are numerous offshoots of TKD and four even calling themselves ITF. It.s important not to ignore other branches/evolutions of the art but to learn from them.

[RolandStGermain]

@dragonbalzy I think that you need to do some study on the history of Taekwondo. Gen. Choi along with other masters developed the chang hon forms but they did this prior to the creation of the ITF in 1966. The Sine Wave was not added to the forms until sometime in the 1970's. So many independent TKD schools practice the Chang hon forms in a way that predates the "official" standardization.

By the way, which ITF are you talking about because are about four organizations claiming the title?

[svlondon]

I dont think he would have ever aproved WTF TKD. But I dont think he pattented for many reasons. But above all reasons he believe taekwondo belonged to the world. I firmly believe this and yes the WTF TKD may not be all correct but we ourselves are with error as well. Master or Student we are still learning and discovering ways to develope our art.

[dragonbalzy]

@RolandStGermain KwangGae was one of the 24 patterns created by Gen Choi, the ITF is Gen Choi's organization, the Chang Hun patterns belong to the ITF and to no other organization. Create your own patterns, with their own practical meaning, then no one else will criticize. We will just admire your great skill.

[dragonbalzy]

@svlondon No he would be happy if people developed the real teakwondo that he invented, not the "sham " taekwondo, that only has a name in common with the martial art he invented. As he said, the WTF and others stole the name taekwondo. Do not go putting words and sentiments in Gen Choi's mouth, he did NOT approve of sham tkd, and he would not support ppl from non-ITF schoold doing ITF patterns. And doing them quite badly as it turns out.

[RolandStGermain]

@dragonbalzy It was a pattern before the ITF was founded. Many independent schools in the USA teach the hyungs according to the way that they were instructed. Naturally, there is some variation in the patterns between different schools and organizations. Some instructors may even change some of the forms according to their own understanding of the art. A martial art should never remain in a state of stasis but should change and even as the martial arts have always done. Cheers!