Slavery in the Bible: Slavery Dialogs (1 of 3)

Slavery Anti-Apologetics (Introduction)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdT1uODfXbw

Slavery in the Bible: Slavery Dialogs (1 of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-4zv1zagNE

Slavery in the Bible: Slavery Dialogs (2 of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xml_8if0mU4

Slavery in the Bible: Slavery Dialogs (3 of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ITcuh28JQU

Transcript:
http://discoveringreligion.net/?p=831
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Recently I've been getting requests about how best to approach a theological debate and/or how to express one's newly found atheism to friends and family. So, I thought I'd share one of my recent debates over the issue of slavery, which has always been one of the most difficult subjects for me to reconcile with the notion of an all-loving God.

Although I am probably not the best person to ask about how to announce your disbelief to friends and family, my personal opinion is to take it slow and don't rush into a huge theological argument. Initially start by dropping hints, raising concerns about the Bible, and gauging reactions. Perhaps mention you've been reading some interesting passages in the Bible and it's starting to become difficult to reconcile what your read with who/what you believe God is supposed to be. When you feel ready, engage others in an detailed debate and defend your position.

I find debates to be fun and engaging. I always learn something new, while sharpening my critical thinking. I hope you find this video entertaining and educational. Please leave me your thoughts and feedback. Thank you!

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[apostatexp]

Well spoken discovery. I wonder if part of the reason Paul and other NT writers didn't condemn slavery was because they were promoting a system of de facto spiritual slavery in asking Christians to serve god and submit to his will and obey his commands, etc. To condemn slavery in general may have weakened their own position. I'm just speculating here, though.

[DiscoveringReligion]

@apostatexp

That's an extremely insightful comment! :) Although we can't prove it, it makes perfect sense. The Bible constantly speaks of servitude and obedience, in addition to comparing Jesus to a shepherd and his followers to a flock. To undermine the practice of slavery may have served to undermine the very message of Christianity itself. Religion doesn't want freethinkers. Free minds and free people do not make obedient sheep. I REALLY like your comment. Thanks a lot for posting. :)

[MaximusArurealius]

MrDiscoverYourASS, you're a LIAR AND A FRAUD. I have completely PWNED YOU.

[DiscoveringReligion]

@MaximusArurealius

Ish don't think so... You claim indentured servitude is moral. Why? Because this form of slavery is used to pay off debt? If that is so, then prostitutes that sell sexual favors to pay off their debts are moral as well. We could even say drug dealers selling crack to pay off their debts are performing moral acts. By your logic, so long as they use the money to pay off a debt virtually anything is moral. BTW, do real Christians fling playground insults at their neighbors?

[MaximusArurealius]

@DiscoveringReligion "BTW, do real Christians fling playground insults at their neighbors?" One true Scotsman fallacy. But thanks for confirming that you know Christianity to be superior to atheism. Nobody EVER says, "Why don't you try to act like a "real" atheist? HAR HAR HAR

[DiscoveringReligion]

@MaximusArurealius

For the time I've debated you and The1066Al I have not once flung an insult. Logic is on my side, I don't need to call you names to prove my point. But you cannot write a single comment without attempting to insult your opponents. You have no argument so you must attack the person in order to evade the issue. Theists claim to transcend petty emotions such as hate, but obviously you are filled with rage against those with opposing beliefs. I feel sorry for you.

[DiscoveringReligion]

@rkyeun

If you watched the introduction video I explained why I use this analogy. But consent is not the issue here. I am solely relying on theistic understanding of morality. Christians believe prostitution is immoral, period. However, they make all kinds of excuses for slavery. If you believe something is flat-out immoral, then it doesn't matter how you regulate it, because it is still immoral. That is it the point.

[zagros24]

the more people become educate it the less religious they become. A remarkable claim need remarkable proof! some don't need proof for their believe but many do!!

[transtlantic]

@MaximusRetardus

The Romans were the most advanced people of their time. Slavery inside their rule was the most fair and just form (using your reasoning).

False analogy? LOLOL that's some fun shit. How is it a false analogy? it isn't. His example was perfect.

By your own reasoning you see prostitution as "moral".

Thanks for proving that you promote slavery and prostitution, that explains why prostitution is HUGE and slavery was common in the most religious states in the USA.

fuck off

[transtlantic]

@MaximusRetardus

You accuse others of being bible literalists...and then you state that you are a creationist... being a creationist IS being a bible literalist. It's obvious that Science already disproved creationism.

"slave was paid a wage"? how is that "Just slavery"? treated fairly? how is that stopping slavery from being slavery? How is not being free...something that allows the conclusion: "treated fairly"? priosioners are treated fairly as well.

[transtlantic]

@MaximusRetardus

how is any form of slavery...acceptable? are you fucking stupid??? (don't answer, it's rhetorical, everyone knows that you are an uneducated fuck).

No form of slavery is acceptable. But we all know that for a religious fundamentalist selling women is something "acceptable".

"not all slavery is immoral"...that's what the slave ppl used to say while trading slaves a few centuries ago, in america.