Soul Reaver 2 - Raziel returns to Elder God

Raziel returns to the Elder God, 500 years in Nosgoth's past.

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[bobmegee]

they hint at a possible reason why raziel could have just woken up at the beginning of SR1 when the elder god says about how a vampires soul "stagnates in their wrteched corpses" we know kains brood of vampires can be resurrected and even gain soul devouring capabilities themselves as soon as the cause of death is removed from their bodies. so perhaps raziels body just reached a stage where the water couldnt harm it any more or maybe just his "soul" grew in power without the slaugh eating him

[Joudas]

@bobmegee I really hate YouTube's new comments system; tries to be too much like twitter and fails at it. Very hard to see who's replying to what. Nonetheless, the immunity to water, he gained when he consumed Rahab's soul in SR1.

[BoyKagome]

So when Raziel makes this accusation about the Elder God just finding him and not being responsible for the resurrection itself, is that accurate?

[Joudas]

We don't know - it's never confirmed or disproved. We know the Elder God is capable of resurrecting people (see: Moebius), however, and the fact that Raziel was changed so much upon his rebirth, and that his new form benefits the Elder God directly (claiming souls for him) lends credence to the Elder God's claim.

[BoyKagome]

Wooo Joudas himself answered... lemmie say your a god send man, I was able to listen at work on my MP3 and learn a lot more. Now the Elder God seems the most likely choice, the thing that gets me is when Raziel says. " I wonder old one, did you truly resurrect me." The Elder God never denied anything Raziel said after that. He stayed silent like " Crap he figured it out." Kinda thing.

[Joudas]

It's certainly a possibility - the issue is never really revisited with anything more then a passing comment, so we may well never know. It could be that it was meant to be left a mystery for some future title that was never released.

[Rahab111222]

Kain wasn't even aware the Elder God existed until the ending of Defiance.

[OriginalZero]

i think that what raziel thinks is true: the elder god was just there when he came back to life. it was raziel's destiny to become the soul reaver, so because it is written in history, he couldn't NOT die there. I think that kain simply killed raziel when he got wings, knowing that those wings would help him become the soul reaver, give raziel a reason to fight.

[killerbladeaex]

@NessDark THATS right and not every vampire could be revived that easily ... he have to die near the elder's lair so he can resseruct him , moebius was scared to die in soul reaver 2 when he wasnt near his master , while in defiance he smiled to kain because he knew he's gonna get resseructed

[NessDark]

@bobmegee yeah, but that would make any revived vampire a free-willed champion

[Cobac]

@OriginalZero kain didnt knew raziel would become a soul reaver ....

[dalmurja]

@Myushu But let me add -- Kain was expecting the Soul Reaver blade to shatter when he strikes Raziel -- he knew that Raziel's soul was inside the blade he was wielding. So at least at that point he knew Raziel's destiny. Whether he knew this piece of information when he ordered him thrown in the Abyss is not strongly indicated, but there is not evidence saying that he did not know either.

[dalmurja]

@Myushu So yeah -- I meant by Soul Reaver as Raziel the Reaver of Souls --

[dalmurja]

@Myushu I was refering to andreiorzan's "he later used the time streaming chambers to seea his own future ....and then he found out about raziel!" -- which indicates that Kain knew nothing about Raziel when he ordered him to be thrown into the Abyss. I am not saying that he knew Raziel was going to BE Soul Reaver or not -- but he definatly knew about Raziel coming after him for revenge -- ie: he knew Raziel was not going to die --

Also -- I said "turn him to the Soul Reaver"-- not the Blade.